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BMW R 1200RT => BMW R 1200RT tires/tyres, oils etc. => Topic started by: David. on 2015-02-22 12:28:57

Title: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2015-02-22 12:28:57
The BMW Motorrad Tyre Options, http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/services/tyres/tyres_main.html,
recommends the following tyre Manufacturers & tread Patterns.

Bridgestone Battlax BT 021, Continental Road Attack, Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart, Metzeler Roadtec Z6 or Z8 & Michelin Pilot Road 2.

Both my 2007 & 2010 RT's came with Factory Fit Metzeler Z6's & the new (used) 2012 bike has the original Bridgestone 021's still fitted.

I've used Z6's for 8 years without any problems, except, they do tend to break up in the centre of the rear tyre without warning because of the tread pattern being slick in that area.
Got caught out in Scotland last year and have lost a bit of confidence in Z6 tyres, a Michelin Pilot Road (original) was fitted to get me home.
Replaced the front & road on PR1's without any problems, there were wearing well before I changed the 2010 bike for my current model.

Looking at the BMW recommendations & cost of the tyres, I have come to the conclusion that, Bridgestone, Continental & Z6's are all similar at approx. £170 per pair.
Dunlop & Z8's come out at around £190/200, PR2's are not available in B version code for the rear.
(Prices obtained from National Bike Tyres, 01325 316771 http://www.nationalbiketyres.co.uk/, for comparison, NBT are my preferred supplier/tyre fitters).

Therefore, I may run the Bridgestone 021's & see how long they last, replace with the same again or perhaps go for Z8's.
(Dropped a VFR when riding on Bridgestone 020's, therefore may have a hang-up about 021's too).

Looks like I'm leaning towards Z8's, they are listed as 1 of 3 tyres for the current LC RT, the other 2 being Continental RA 2GT & Michelin PR 4GT's.

Most of my riding is 2 Up +/- Luggage, mileage is a priority but not at the expense of safety & I appreciate tyres are also a personal choice.

Any help or comments from your experiences would be most welcome, thanks.
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: stelyn on 2015-02-22 13:09:06
Hi,   there's already a detailed similar Posting on tyres started by Beemerbaz in the `Tyre Section' under the title   " Time for new tyres soon"        (  moving  your request across may help you  )  ;)
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-22 14:15:13
Cheers Steve, looking back at that thread, Z8's do get some good reviews etc.

Any others comments.
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-02-22 17:51:57
I've got Z8s done now 1500 miles on them and they feel good. Feel just as good as the Contis. The question is will they last longer, hope so.
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-22 18:44:18
I replaced my Contis at 6300 miles but could have stretched them to 7000 miles.

Will be interested in how long the Z8's last on your LC.

The Z8 is the only tyre now listed by BMW for both the Twin Cam & LC RT's, although the version code on the Front is now (M) for the LC, previously Standard.
They share the same Rear, version code (C).

"Metzeler has decided to develop the new (M) and (O) specifications to provide motorcyclists the latest technology in terms of wet grip by retaining a high level of performance in all other areas."

https://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/products/tyres-catalogue/Roadtec-Z8-Interact.html?version=950350
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-23 20:27:41
Have added a Poll, if there are any Manufacturers/Tread Patterns on your bike not listed, please post them here & they can be added, thanks.
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-24 12:50:56
A thread from UKGSer about 2012 RT Tyres, http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/391869-2012-RT-tyres.

Avon Tyres recommend either their Storm 2 Ultra or Storm 3D X-M for a 2005 onwards RT, http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorbike/r-1200-rtst.
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-26 12:01:04
Reading the 2014 Motorrad Touring Motorcycle Tyre Test thread, has thrown up another manufacturer, Pirelli.

Pirelli recommend their Angel or Angel GT for a 2005 onwards RT, http://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-gb/motorcycle/all-tyres/fitment#/search
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-02-26 13:00:54
I fitted Angel GT to my FJR1300 and they transformed the bike. Heavier bike than the RT, so I would think they would work well on the RT. However didn't transform the bike enough for me to keep it. Sold it for the RT  :)
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Firenailer on 2015-02-26 15:03:52
I replaced the original Bridgestone 021's with Michelin P3's at 6000 miles. It transformed the motorcycle completely. I thought the Bridgestones were the slipperiest tires I've ever rode on. The Michelins have been rock solid in any weather and road surface for the last 7000 miles.


They still look to have plenty of tread left too which is a nice bonus!
Title: Re: Help on Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-26 17:37:43
I replaced the original Bridgestone 021's with Michelin P3's at 6000 miles.

Michelin Pilot Road 3's added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 09:23:18
Michelin Pilot Road 4GT's are currently leading the Poll (38.5%),  could this be because new bikes are being supplied with them or folks are switching manufacturers/makes for some reason.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Budman on 2015-02-28 15:31:29
There were two identically equipped and color bikes when I went to pick up my 2014. One had Metezler's and one had PR4s. I chose the one with the PR4s.
Might want want to add a like on the poll as to what came on the bike.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: RTman10 on 2015-02-28 15:43:09
Michelin Pilot Road 4GT's are currently leading the Poll (38.5%),could this be because new bikes are being supplied with them or folks are switching manufacturers/makes for some reason.
The factory over the years have tended to swap from one recommended tyre make to another at random. Its a supply thing, but for some time now they seem to supply more with Z8s.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 17:04:12
There were two identically equipped and color bikes when I went to pick up my 2014. One had Metezler's and one had PR4s. I chose the one with the PR4s.

Was there any particular reason why you chose the bike with PR4's on over the one with Metzelers, (presumably Z8's).
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 17:18:05
The factory over the years have tended to swap from one recommended tyre make to another at random. Its a supply thing, but for some time now they seem to supply more with Z8s.

It's interesting that the number of BMW recommended tyre manufacturers for the LC RT is only 3, Continental RA 2GT, Metzeler Z8 & Michelin PR 4GT.

Previously, with the Twin Cam, Bridgestone & Dunlop were listed, together with both Z6 & Z8, a choice of 6 tyres.

Going back further to the first 1200 RT, there was a BMW list of 8 tyres, those already mentioned, plus, Bridgestone Battlax BT 020 & Dunlop Sportmax D220 ST.

The Metzeler Z8 is the only tyre which has continued to be listed for all 3 models of RT.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Budman on 2015-02-28 17:35:12
Ive just had better luck in mileage and ride quality with the PR4s. It may be all in my mind but I just prefer the PR4 tire. I put a set of Michelin's on my R1100RT and had really bad  luck with them so it took a lot for me to switch from Metzeler back to Michelin. Once I did with the PR3 I was sold on them.
I dont have anything bad to say about the Z8, I just like the PR4s better and since motorcycling is mostly mental it just seems reasonable to me to go with what keeps my mind right.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Budman on 2015-02-28 17:47:19
This is a PR3 with 14,000 miles on it. 5/16th tread left. Hard to beat that mileage.


She rides one up all the time. Most of those miles were done last summer on her National Parks tour. 
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 17:49:56
Thanks for the feedback & as in the original post, "I appreciate tyres are also a personal choice".

For the reasons given, I'll probably still go with the Metzeler Z8 when it's time to change from the existing, original, Bridgestone Battlax BT 021's.

Any more votes, help or comments are most welcome, thanks.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-02-28 17:50:10
It's interesting that the number of BMW recommended tyre manufacturers for the LC RT is only 3, Continental RA 2GT, Metzeler Z8 & Michelin PR 4GT.

Previously, with the Twin Cam, Bridgestone & Dunlop were listed, together with both Z6 & Z8, a choice of 6 tyres.
As already posted, the Metzeler Z8 is the only tyre which has been listed for both bikes.


Call me an old cynic but I wonder how much the tyre manufacturers pay BMW to have their tyres recommended. From BMW perspective having 3 manufacturers supplying keeps them competitive on price and no supply issues. Certainly here in the UK there would no issues in fitting any Sport Touring tyre that complies to OEM specification with regards to speed and load rating. Not so sure in Germany.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 18:21:07
Certainly here in the UK there would no issues in fitting any Sport Touring tyre that complies to OEM specification with regards to speed and load rating. Not so sure in Germany.

You could well be correct, looking at the BMW Tyre Options, they state, "This information is not binding and is based on the statutory provisions and technical regulations for Germany - changes and deviating provisions may apply abroad. Before fitting your chosen tyres, please ensure that they are based on an up-to-date version of the relevant clearance certificate for your BMW motorcycle. BMW Motorrad recommends obtaining a clearance certificate from the tyre manufacturer and keeping this certificate with the vehicle at all times."
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 18:24:43
This is a PR3 with 14,000 miles on it. 5/16th tread left. Hard to beat that mileage.

PR3's certainly give good mileage, I'm surprised they haven't got more votes in the Poll.

It will be interesting to see how the PR4's compare,
Michelin say, "Thanks to improved 2CT technology, new MICHELIN Pilot Road 4 tyres last up to 20% longer than the MICHELIN Pilot Road 3 tyres,

and

"The new MICHELIN Pilot Road 4 GT tyre has been successfully homologated on BMW R 12000 RT and will equip 40% of its new models."
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: RTman10 on 2015-02-28 19:21:20
14000 miles out of a back tyre and still going must be a world record.  That's at least twice what most of us get. 
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 20:07:25
This isn't my bike, nor is it a Metzeler Z6, but it is how mine looked when I got caught out in Scotland.

(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o716/Juice1601/hardride_zpsdde5a63a.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: richardbd on 2015-02-28 21:30:11
14000 miles out of a back tyre and still going must be a world record.  That's at least twice what most of us get.


I was about to say the same thing.  I'd be delighted to get 7,000 out of a rear tyre.  I've never managed it yet - maybe the RT will be the first time...
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: RTman10 on 2015-02-28 22:08:20
I think the only way to get mileage like that is the way I got a 1600GTL the 600 miles from central France back home with no tread wear at all, in the back of a van.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 22:17:32
Z8's are coming up on the rails.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 22:31:03
This isn't my bike, nor is it a Metzeler Z6, but it is how mine looked when I got caught out in Scotland.

(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o716/Juice1601/hardride_zpsdde5a63a.jpg)

This tyre looks like a Z8 to me, with the "Pi" tread pattern.

(https://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/mediaObject/MetzelerSite/CommonImg/Product/Tyres/Roadtecz8interact/product_sheet_roadtecz8interact-default_460x500_jpeg/original/product_sheet_roadtecz8interact-default_460x500_jpeg.jpg)

https://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/products/tyres-catalogue/Roadtec-Z8-Interact.html?version=950350
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Dori928 on 2015-02-28 22:47:56
The photo of the PR3 rear tire in Reply 17 by Budman has 4mm of tread after 22,000 km (14k mi)

The previous rear & front tires, both PR 3's, were replaced after 26,000 km (16k mi),but still had a little tread left.

My next set will without a doubt be PR-4's !

Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-02-28 23:18:33
I've used Z6's for 8 years without any problems, except, they do tend to break up in the centre of the rear tyre without warning because of the tread pattern being slick in that area.

A bit like this, "I had them once but never again because of the lack of wear bars near the center."

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/114442-Worn-out-tires-on-the-road

(http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/attachment.php?s=1fc54d5ba4329a24b64acc45f04979b8&attachmentid=78691&stc=1&d=1250813106)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-02-28 23:20:16
I think the only way to get mileage like that is the way I got a 1600GTL the 600 miles from central France back home with no tread wear at all, in the back of a van.


This made me smile. :)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-02-28 23:48:23
The photo of the PR3 rear tire in Reply 17 by Budman has 4mm of tread after 22,000 km (14k mi)

The previous rear & front tires, both PR 3's, were replaced after 26,000 km (16k mi),but still had a little tread left.

My next set will without a doubt be PR-4's !


These are just amazing mileages how do you do it. I could have got 7K from RA2 GT. Maybe with a push they might have gone to 8K. However I never wear them to the limit of 1 mm. In my experience having had 2 blow outs caused by sharp metal object embedding themselves into the rear, I like something in the centre of the tyre. However 8K is a long way off 14-16K. Question "Can you have fun and still obtain such high mileages?" or "Are the roads less abrasive on your side of the pond?" What ever the answer, impressive and something I will never obtain.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: RTman10 on 2015-03-01 08:22:35
Answer to question one, definitely no fun.  Question two, maybe American miles are like American gallons and the roads are made of cotton wool..   
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Budman on 2015-03-01 19:36:18
We have some of the best riding around here in North Carolina. Its not necessary to burn off tires to have a good time. I think some of the best advice I've ever received when learning to ride was to ride my own ride. I've never been to Europe so I wont judge what happens or how people ride there.
In the US there are a lot of wide open spaces and a good interstate system to get you from one place to another. Or you can hop on a two lane and just cruise through the countryside. Either way you go its important to ride to your skill, and comfort level.


Anyone making their way to the States, Ill be glad to show you around our little part of the world. Great riding and true southern hospitality.


Y'all come and see how we do it here!


Budman   
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Dori928 on 2015-03-02 17:10:25

These are just amazing mileages how do you do it. I could have got 7K from RA2 GT. Maybe with a push they might have gone to 8K. However I never wear them to the limit of 1 mm. In my experience having had 2 blow outs caused by sharp metal object embedding themselves into the rear, I like something in the centre of the tyre. However 8K is a long way off 14-16K. Question "Can you have fun and still obtain such high mileages?" or "Are the roads less abrasive on your side of the pond?" What ever the answer, impressive and something I will never obtain.

The roads in the US are quite good. The distance from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific is 3000 mi (4800km),longer if you take the "scenic" route. Once you get there, you have to do that same mileage to get home. The distance from southern Texas to Canada is 1600 miles (2575km).  We have a lot of wide open spaces!! Lots of places to ride. I weigh 130 plus gear and luggage, but I pack pretty light.  Perhaps the combination of weight and smooth roads contributes to longer tire wear.  I get better mileage out of tires than most of my riding buddies here in the US as well. I run them at 36-40psi (2.48-2.76 BAR).  I have fun, but I am not pushing the limits of my tires.

Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-03-02 17:48:44
Glad your having fun, after all thats what its all about. I guess your weight and riding style have a lot to do with your high mileages your can get from your tyres. I have never ridden in the States but have driven a fair amount and the one thing I have noticed is that once away from cities, there is generally a relaxed motoring style. You like to cruise and there is nothing wrong with that.  :)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-03-02 18:27:28
The Original Michelin Pilot Road (PR1) is one of the few tyres with a tread groove across the full width of the tyre.

(http://moto.michelin.co.uk/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/motorcycle-website/pneus/michelin-pilot-road/143982-3-fre-FR/michelin-pilot-road_tyre_360_small.png)

This type of tread pattern & those tyres with a circumferential centre groove are probably better to monitor tyre wear.

(http://www.conti-bike.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/RB2_K112.jpg)

Are you aware of any of the tyres listed by BMW for fitment on RT's which share similar tread pattern(s) & are not slick in the centre.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-03-20 21:45:05
Spotted an RT today with Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart fitted.

The tread pattern does cross the centre of the tyre.

(http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.eu/dunlop_euen/Images/Sportmax_Roadsmart_tcm386-52680.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Spencert231 on 2015-03-20 23:29:20
My bike came with Z8s on it and although I think they are a good tyre simply based on the fact they do not frighten me and sure footed, so to speak, I will change them for the PR4s when ready. I used the PRs on the Tiger (roadie) and wow they were great.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: richardbd on 2015-03-21 09:55:50
My bike came with Z8s on it and although I think they are a good tyre simply based on the fact they do not frighten me and sure footed, so to speak, I will change them for the PR4s when ready.


same plan here...
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: stelyn on 2015-03-21 14:07:08
Now running on the PR4's,  ( not GT versions - standards have the softer side walls )OK so have  only covered 300 miles so far, but what a difference already.     Fantastic grip through the bends, reduced  `road noise' , the  bike feels `transformed',   yes,  I appreciate any brand of  new tyres once scrubbed in always tend to give a  `new feel',   but these are good.     It almost feels like I'm now riding a different Bike,
only with more mileage,  will time tell,  but so far am well pleased with them........ ;)   :whistle:
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: richardbd on 2015-03-21 20:02:21
Now running on the PR4's,  ( not GT versions - standards have the softer side walls )OK so have  only covered 300 miles so far, but what a difference already.     Fantastic grip through the bends, reduced  `road noise' , the  bike feels `transformed',   yes,  I appreciate any brand of  new tyres once scrubbed in always tend to give a  `new feel',   but these are good.     It almost feels like I'm now riding a different Bike,
only with more mileage,  will time tell,  but so far am well pleased with them........ ;)   :whistle:

What were you running before?
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: stelyn on 2015-03-21 20:48:18
Hi Richardbd, -  Metzelers, Z8's    8)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: richardbd on 2015-03-21 21:03:05
Hi Richardbd, -  Metzelers, Z8's    8)

Same as I have at the moment but not many miles left in them.  Have had PR3s and 4s before and loved them - especially the 3s.

Do you reckon there is really much of a difference, compared to the Z8?
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: stelyn on 2015-03-21 21:30:47
Hi Richardbd,  mine were worn down  to about 85% so I suppose I  could have got more mileage  out of them.    In the past, on previous Bikes I have tended to buy Bridgestones ,   this is my first experience with Michellins .   I know it could be considered `early days',  and  you have to factor in road surfaces /weather conditions and rider habits, ect ect,  but in my opinion these are far better tyres  than those Z8's that I am well shot of.   
I also went on reccomendations  from other local club members using PR4's,  so should the tyres  not live up to all the hype and expectations,  I'll revert back to the BT 023'S.      ;)   
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: richardbd on 2015-03-21 22:10:48
Hi Richardbd,  mine were worn down  to about 85% so I suppose I  could have got more mileage  out of them.    In the past, on previous Bikes I have tended to buy Bridgestones ,   this is my first experience with Michellins .   I know it could be considered `early days',  and  you have to factor in road surfaces /weather conditions and rider habits, ect ect,  but in my opinion these are far better tyres  than those Z8's that I am well shot of.   
I also went on reccomendations  from other local club members using PR4's,  so should the tyres  not live up to all the hype and expectations,  I'll revert back to the BT 023'S.      ;)

Thanks Stelyn.  Reckon I'll stick to my PR4 plan then...
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Chad on 2015-03-22 00:44:16
Of all the tyres I've had on my bikes, the best without any doubt were the Michellin Pilots. I've had pegs down on the Helmsley TT, ridden across Germany on autobahns in torrential rain fully loaded with my wife on the back and not once have I ever felt even a hint of a slip. Not even on white lines. In the wet I didn't even notice the difference. They wore evenly, with no flat centre section and got lovely & sticky in the summer when I needed it;-). So impressed am I by these tyres, I would fit them if they were twice the price. I have almost new Conti's on at the moment and I'm seriously thinking of changing them over.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: stelyn on 2015-03-22 10:57:54
That's a good endorsement Chad, glad I got them now..... ;)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-04-03 19:13:32
Only 20 out of 315 Members have Voted (6.3%),come on folks, this is worse than the General Election in 2010, when the Turnout was 65.1%.

The Poll is, "What Tyres are on Your RT", irrespective of the Year/Model.

Have added a Poll, if there are any Manufacturers/Tread Patterns on your bike not listed, please post them here & they can be added, thanks.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Spencert231 on 2015-04-08 08:34:10
Dayglodavid although I have Z8s on my bike it was not through choice, they were fitted by BMW. However, I am very interested in your poll as I will use the information to get my new ones. So best of luck and hope they all play ball :clap:


NB. There is nothing wrong with the Z8s just nothing to compare it with on my bike.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-04-25 10:18:46
Whilst at National Bike Tyres last week, Steve mentioned Avon Tyres as an alternative for the RT.

The Avon Fitting Guide, http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorbike/r-1200-rtst, comes up with either a Storm 2 Ultra or Storm 3D X-M.

2 Ultra (http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/sites/default/files/product-images/storm%202%20Ultra.jpg?1304503376) or (http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/sites/default/files/product-images/Web_3D%20Storm%20Front_Rear_AV65_66.png?1367402209) 3D X-M.

A Pair of 2 Ultras are £139 & 3D X-Ms are £186.

Has anyone had any experience of either of these tyres, my last Avon tyres were Roadrunner or going further back Speedmaster.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Levisp on 2015-04-25 10:54:11
The Motorrad touring tyre test gave the Storm 3D XM a very poor wet rating. Personally the competition is too good, I would not touch them. When I have worn out my Z8s going to try Pirelli Angel GTs. The Z8s have done 4000 miles and I they look about half worn. Think the Conti RA2 GT half worn handle better. I'm very tempted to try the EVO version of the RAs but I think they might wear out too fast, hence the lean towards the Pirellis.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Chad on 2015-04-26 21:34:18
I've been trying hard over the past couple of months to lose the flat centre section on my continentals (the first owner did 2000 miles on the bike & must have ridden everywhere totally upright!) They are rounding off reasonably well (I've now done over 1000 miles that include corners!) but the front tyre is feathering badly, and I don't brake particularly hard. As I've mentioned before the design of the tread really doesn't help.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-06-10 09:32:19
Pirelli Angel GT added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Maz12 on 2015-06-10 21:49:38
I had some Avon storm 2s on my log K12GT,  Decent enough wet or dry but one thing I didn't like was the slow speed riding on them.
They are kinda oval shaped so the upright contact patch is narrow and can have you doing a mini slalom,  (maybe I'm just shit at slow speed control, but not had a similar problem on other tyres)
I too used to have some Avon roadrunners on a Honda CB900f many many moons ago.. They were the dogs bollox then... But shite compared to modern stuff
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Chad on 2015-06-11 10:13:57
Im sure it was the tyres Maz, but do k16's go slow?! the tyres make a huge difference to the bike. Some is of course individual preference but in my experience some tyres simply don't suit the handling characteristics of the bike. And as mention on another thread- some tyres are fine when new but awful when partially worn-especially if the rider doesn't go around corners & squares them off. I honestly think these kind of riders would be better if with cross ply car tyres! 
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-11-01 13:28:44
Bridgestone T30 GT added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: timetobeTom on 2015-11-13 19:56:47
My 2015 rt came with Metzeler Z8 tires and at 10K front tire needs replacing. It has cupped real bad. I don't see a value in this tire.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-11-13 22:58:27
Metzeler Roadtec 01 added to the Poll.

Who's going to be the first to have them fitted to their RT in January 2016.

It will be interesting to see if they replace Z8's as one of the 3 Factory Fit Options for RT's.

(http://live-glide-projects.glidedata.com.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/hzjw335o-t0w5d8/assets/igtb9uct-a7b674/640_75.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: T6pilot on 2015-11-15 23:54:10
My last two bikes came with Z8's
K1600 replaced at 2200 miles for PR4's
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-11-16 10:08:26
Z8's (16) are not far behind PR4 GT's (18) in the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Ganesh on 2015-12-23 14:58:17
Hi, I bought my RT twin cam in May and so far covered 8,000miles. This included a 2000mile round trip to Lucca. They came fitted with BT030, not sure what mileage they had. Changed them recently for another set of BT030 as the front was squaring slightly although enough tread for another 1000+ . Decision was based on the winter setting in, price, riding style and commute (110miles) along with opinions from tyre fitters and two BMW dealerships. Hoping to get at least 8,000 out of the new set.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-12-23 15:17:29
They came fitted with BT030.

Is that the same tyre as the T30 GT.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Our Gee on 2015-12-26 09:04:28
Metzeler Roadtec 01 added to the Poll.

Who's going to be the first to have them fitted to their RT in January 2016.

It will be interesting to see if they replace Z8's as one of the 3 Factory Fit Options for RT's.

(http://live-glide-projects.glidedata.com.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/hzjw335o-t0w5d8/assets/igtb9uct-a7b674/640_75.jpg)

I wonder why Metzeler deemed it necessary to design in a section of the front tyre where there is no tread grooves. The section at about 2/3 lean angle ?.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2015-12-26 12:59:25
There does seem to be a trend away from "fully cut" tread patterns by some tyre manufacturers.

Michelin Pilot Roads are an example of how tread patterns have changed over the years of tyre development.

PR(1)
(http://moto.michelin.co.uk/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/motorcycle-website/pneus/michelin-pilot-road/143982-3-fre-FR/michelin-pilot-road_tyre_360_small.png)
PR2
(http://moto.michelin.co.uk/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/motorcycle-website/pneus/michelin-pilot-road-2/143952-3-fre-FR/michelin-pilot-road-2_tyre_360_small.png)
PR3
(http://moto.michelin.co.uk/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/motorcycle-website/pneus/michelin-pilot-road-3/143967-3-fre-FR/michelin-pilot-road-3_tyre_360_small.png)
PR4
(http://moto.michelin.co.uk/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/motorcycle-website-au/tyres/michelin-pilot-road-4-gt/1558074-40-fre-FR/michelin-pilot-road-4-gt_tyre_360_small.png)

When speaking to Steve at NBT, he suggested that the change from PR3 to PR4 gave a bit of a "slick" area where it's needed the most when tipped over
& that in the wet, it's unlikely you'd be using that part of the tyre, just a thought, his not mine.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: chrismckay on 2016-02-10 19:40:43
How many of you have the ability to ride to the limits of any of the popular tyres?


Certainly not me.


I read through the comments on tyre threads suggesting that they are grippy when leaned over or tetchy until warmed up.


Seriously?
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: badger on 2016-02-10 19:48:30
Very true, that is why mileage and grip comments are meaningless IMO
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-05-29 17:15:41
Avon Storm 2 Ultra added to the poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: k9doc on 2017-05-29 17:29:52
Avon Storm 2 Ultra added to the poll.
Best vote then when I get them. MZ8 for now.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Sullivj on 2017-05-29 19:36:10
Metzeler z8s on my 2012, which have been on there since new.


The bikes done 5,000 miles, with another 1,000 going on next week.  I plan to change them when I return, as the rear is starting to square off.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: RogerM on 2017-06-28 19:43:05
Got PR4`s on mine. This is the only bike I`ve had that wears out the front tyre first.

Regards Roger.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: wbrenner on 2017-07-04 21:32:39
I have a 2016 RT1200RT, and have just used up my original fitment tires, which are Pilot Road 4 GTs.
With previous sport touring machines that I have owned (this is my first BMW),I am used to the front tire lasting almost twice as long as  the rear tire.  It is good when I can combine a tire change with the required service appointments.

At my 6,000 mile service, I replaced the rear tire, which we (dealer and I) determined had another 2,000 miles of life left.
At 11,500 miles, I hit the wear bars on the front tire, and they still had enough tread left to make it to 12,000 miles, when I will go for the 12,000 mile service maintenance.  Slight cupping on the front tire, off of center.  Could have been less cupping if I used more engine breaking.

I run 36/42 tire pressures front/rear.  Sometime after 6,000 miles, I found that I was handling less neutral, but that more frequent tire pressure checks helped - at 33/39, I could feel the difference from 36/42.  Filling them back to 36(or 37)/42 helped restore a more neutral feeling.  My riding 75% commuting (usually behaving, but sometimes riding more agressively),and the rest on curvy mountain roads, riding briskly.  About 1200 miles two up, but the two of us together only weigh 240 pounds.

In a magazine test, in 2014 (Rider magazine?),one of the tester did not like the PR4s as much, because the of the smaller tread blocks  than some other offerings.
I saw a Dunlop Roadsmart ad in the U.S. magazine 'Rider', July 2017.  It compares tire life and other qualities againt the PR4 GT.  Was hoping to see more reviews of the Roadsmarts in this thread to judge rider satisfaction.  I have attached the the ad in my post here.[attach=1]

Looking at the posts on this subject, having some challenges understanding how to use them for comparison.  When someone says that they took a trip somewhere, and came back with 2 mm of tread left, it does not inform on how much mileage the tire may go.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-07-06 10:07:39
Dunlop Roadsmart III added to the poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: B787MECH on 2017-07-06 12:25:49
Just fitted a pair of Metzeler Roadtec 01 HWM's on my 2017 LC to replace the original Michelin PR4 GT's after a rear puncture at 3500 miles. The Metzelers are getting rave reviews in the bike media, so I thought I'd try them. Only done 350 miles so far but they give a smooth stable ride, turn in nicely, and cross lines better than the PR4's. HWM stands for 'Heavy Weight Motorcycle" and are 2 Ply construction, which gives a very strong and stiff sidewall, designed for two up fully loaded touring. The tyre fitters remarked on how stiff they were, comparing them to 'Run-Flat' car tyres!
One thing I noticed was when I had the slow puncture and was stopping every twenty miles to top it up, the TPM went a bit erratic giving about 0.5 bar difference. After the new tyre was fitted and the pressure was constant the readings returned to normal!


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Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-07-06 12:38:09
Just fitted a pair of Metzeler Roadtec 01 HWM's on my 2017 LC. HWM stands for 'Heavy Weight Motorcycle".

Are HWM's recommended for both front & rear, or is it personal choice.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: B787MECH on 2017-07-06 12:47:12
I think the idea is you fit them as a matched pair, as per normal.l wouldn't feel happy otherwise but at the end of the day it's personal choice I suppose.


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Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-07-06 12:58:52
I think the idea is you fit them as a matched pair, as per normal. l wouldn't feel happy otherwise but at the end of the day it's personal choice I suppose.

The Metzeler fitment guide recommends a standard version 01 for the front & a HWM 01 for the rear.

"HWM front tyre version has the same 2-ply construction as the standard version, but benefits from stiffer carcass material and sidewall construction plus a slightly different compound recipe."
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: B787MECH on 2017-07-06 14:26:49
Yes, strange indeed! Could that be a typo on the website? As the bike was supplied with Michelin PR4 GT's which are heavy weight type tyres I fitted the equivalent Metzelers (HWM's). Quite happy with that, not going back now!


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Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-07-06 15:26:09
Yes, strange indeed! Could that be a typo on the website?

Probably not, with the pre-LC RT's, Metzeler listed Z6's & Z8's before the 01's became available.
In both cases, the front was a standard version with the rear being a 'C' version.
Now they are listing 01's as a standard version on the front & HWM on the rear of an LC.
The HWM front is an alternative to the standard version, again, down to personal choice.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: pwbike on 2017-07-07 06:06:03
The Metzeler fitment guide recommends a standard version 01 for the front & a HWM 01 for the rear.

Yes, but my motorcycle tyre dealer/fitter (well regarded and in business a long time) advised me to get the HWM front and rear on my RT.
I took that advice and have had no reason to regret or question it.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-09-22 19:35:54
Avon Spirit ST added to the poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Our Gee on 2017-10-11 14:06:50
Avon Spirit ST fitted a couple of weeks ago now with over 2000 miles covered nothing but good things to report. Having just got back from a trip to Provence these tyres proved faultless. Of course we all know that French roads are vastly superior to the low grade crap we have to contend with here in the U.K. and no doubt any tyre will feel better on such surfaces but having quite a lot of experience riding in France these new Avons are very good. My journey south was mainly on N and D roads with lots of bend swinging. The drop down the Ardeche valley off the Auvergne plateau to Aubenas with a multitude of steep descending bends mean quite heavy braking and a lot of front end loading. No cause for concern in that department and no loss of grip on hard 2nd gear acceleration when well cranked over. My return journey was all Autoroute from Montelimar to Calais so a good test to check for any "squaring" off. On checking the rear this morning I can see no visible signs of flatness forming at all.
In a nutshell, very pleased with my purchase. And they are of course, British (Made in England) !!. Recommended.

Update.
3000 miles now recorded on the Avon Spirit ST since fitting last October. Just had a good look and “NO” visible signs of centre wear on the Rear. Groove depth remains at 7mm as when fitted. A very slight profile change can just be felt by hand. Front is as new.
Very pleased.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: rglassma on 2017-11-28 10:49:17
ContiMotions.  I had a set.  They are far less expensive than just about any other offering out there.  I have 7K on the front and got about 5K on the rear before I changed the rear to a Roadsmart III.  The combination is just fine !!!


I will definitely buy another front for 65.00.  Great value !!!  After almost 3K the IIIs seem to be doing just fine on the rear.  With the Contimotions,  you need to be a bit conservative when you twist the throttle.  The rear can wear quickly if you are hard on them.  I didn't for most of the tire's life.  But after about 3K, I guess I lost me discipline .
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: pwbike on 2017-11-29 10:17:32
My Metzeler Roadtec 01 tyres came off at the 60,000 km service last week. I'd done 14,000 km on them and was very happy with the way they worked for me.
The front had flat sides, giving a triangular profile, but still gave great grip and confidence.
The rear was low in the centre and did not have long to go before replacement.

I'd have gone with the same again, but the dealer only had Michelin PR4 GT in stock and made silly statements about the Metzeler being a second rate tyre. They seemed unaware of the German magazine Motorrad testing tyres and finding the Roadtec 01 to be better than all other sport touring tyres two years in a row.

It will be interesting to see what I think of the PR4 GT after the Roadtec 01, I've never had the Michelins before.
I notice already that the bike feels very wandery, like it would rather turn than go straight.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2017-11-29 16:10:16
ContiMotion added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Ganesh on 2017-12-31 15:29:12
Just had a service and the tyres are at 1.6mm front and back with even wear across both. They are Bridgestone BT023 and have done 9,232 miles in 2 years.


Did a little exercise on tyre wear from the service records and found after 2,515 miles they were 3.5 on the front and 4.8 on the rear. Mainly a commute for 6 months on M25 and A3, about 130mile round trip.


This meant the front wore down by 1.9mm and the rear by 3.2mm over the next 6,717 miles! Shorter commute on the A27/M27 for 4 months of about 70 mile round trip, then a commute on B road and A3, round trip now down to 55 miles.
 
Unfortunately unable to check the wear for the first 2.5k as I don't have the starting tread depth. Might do that for the next set due very soon.
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Options being considered are another set of Bridgestone or the Metzeler, recommended, and only slightly more than the Bridgestone.

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Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-06-21 11:36:36
Pirelli Angel GT2 added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-09-13 16:14:45
Michelin Road 5 GT added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: gogs01 on 2019-09-13 17:43:16
Michelin Road 5 GT added to the Poll.


Who is going to rush out and replace their PR4GTs with Road5GTs ?  And will they be measurably better ?  I find the PR4GTs perfectly OK, but I'm not convinced they are an improvement over the PR3s I used previously.  They were more expensive however .....
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-09-13 17:50:13
I also managed to get a set of GT PR5's fitted.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: gogs01 on 2019-09-14 23:27:59

Great - I hope he'll be able to tell us how they are better than (and therefore worth more than) PR4GTs, or even PR3s .....
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-09-16 10:15:35
Comparing Metzeler Z6 https://www.metzeler.com/en-uk/products/tyres/roadtec-z6#gallery-2

(https://d1ykpo4jhzi0cx.cloudfront.net/images/1527582642761/roadtecz6_rear.png)

with Metzeler Z8 https://www.metzeler.com/en-uk/products/tyres/roadtec-z8-interact#gallery-2

(https://d1ykpo4jhzi0cx.cloudfront.net/images/1527582643399/roadtecz8interact_rear.png)

it can be seen that the width of the "central slick stripe" has been reduced.

Hopefully, this will minimise the risk of being caught out with the centre of the tyre breaking up & showing threads whilst the rest of the tyre still looks good.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: gogs01 on 2019-09-16 22:53:43

Hopefully, this will minimise the risk of being caught out with the centre of the tyre breaking up & showing threads whilst the rest of the tyre still looks good.


If that's the concern, you need a PR3 or a PR4GT.  They have tread across the whole width of the tyre, thus enabling measurements to be taken from new to the legal minimum and beyond, and a cursory glance will give an excellent estimate of wear / remaining life.  The lack of tread in the centre of the Metzelers was one of my few complaints with those tyres.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-09-17 08:16:26
Coincidentally, I got caught out with the Metzeler Z6 in Scotland, where the road surfaces are more aggressive/abrasive on tyres.
I used Z6's for 8 years, covering many miles in all conditions. Other than the one poor experience, was very happy with their performance.

Decided to switch to the Dunlop Roadsmart "I" (original) which has a groove across the central section of the tyre to help monitor wear.
Would be more than happy to continue using these, but unfortunately, they are now no longer in production.

Currently, I'm leaning towards the Z8's. My riding is April to October, plus I do not deliberately go out in the wet when I don't have to. Therefore, would prefer to have, "more rubber in contact with the ground", than a tyre which is cut heavily with grooves & sipes. Some tyre manufacturers achieve wet weather grip through chemical compounds, whilst others prefer a more cut tyre approach, both methods work.

At the end of the day, tyres are a personal choice which we all need to be happy with. It's good to have the discussion/debate with others and I appreciate their input to any threads, thank you.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: stayingupright on 2019-09-17 09:34:34
Had the PR5 GT's for just over a week now and I have to confess I'm hooked.
They appear to work great from startup. The PR4's only got to their best after about 20 miles or so.
It feels like I've been given power steering.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-09-17 19:51:47
Bridgestone Battlax T31 added to the Poll.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2019-10-03 10:13:45
The Poll of "What tyres are on Your RT", is now over 4 years old. Would it be worth resetting the vote count to get a more realistic up to date representation of tyres now being used.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: gogs01 on 2019-10-03 16:16:34
Perhaps it could be changed to "The best tyre for the R1200 / 1250RT in my experience / opinion"


That way, it would not be weighted in favour of OE tyres ?
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2020-05-28 19:09:17
The Poll of "What tyres are on Your RT", is now over 4 years old. Would it be worth resetting the vote count to get a more realistic up to date representation of tyres now being used.

Poll reset, get voting, your votes count!

If your tyre isn't listed, it can soon be added.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: gogs01 on 2020-05-28 21:53:28
The poll is still for "what tyres are on your RT ?" rather than "The best tyre for the R1200 / 1250RT in my experience / opinion"


Is it possible to poll both ?
I've voted for PR4GT because that's what I have on the bike. However if the PR3 was still available that's what I would fit. They handled as well as the PR4GT (including in the wet),lasted longer and were cheaper. Ease of monitoring wear due to the tread pattern was marginally better than the PR4GT too. I'm no racer, so ultimate dry grip is probably never going to be tested and I've never understood how normal road riders measure "warm up". I live in a built up area, so the tyres will never have any challenges before everything is warmed up - engine, transmission, brakes, rider .....
I do have this theory that the "best" tyre is often the one you have just fitted since it is new, and you had become accustomed to a worn pair. Without back to back testing it is difficult to be sure of a fair comparison. All just my opinion, for what that's worth .....
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: David. on 2020-05-28 22:49:12
The poll has been reset as requested because it was over 5 years old.

I'm happy with the Dunlop Roadsmart I's on my 2012 TC, so would therefore recommend them based on my use & riding style etc. They are still available to purchase, although now discontinued. Once the Roadsmarts are no longer available, from experience with Metzeler Z6's (again, now n/a in C spec. rear for RT's),  I'd go for Metzeler Z8's.

Surely, most folks would have what they think is the best tyre fitted to their bike for their needs. It's down to the membership to vote to get any meaningful result.

Over to you guys.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: hammo on 2020-05-29 09:29:49
I purchased my 2018RTLE new with Metzeller fitted , i,m a steady rider maybe thats why i got 8000 mile on them and they were still road legal , however changed to Michelin Road Pilot GT hope to establish this season if they are as good as the Metzeller !!!!!!   
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2020-05-29 09:32:30
The title of the thread has been changed to, "Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT".

Hopefully, that will make it more inclusive. Yes, Z8's & PR4GT's are likely to be popular as they are the only two tyres currently OE factory fit by BMW.

As said above, if folks vote for what's on their bike, it's got to be representative.
If you would prefer to vote for a tyre not fitted to your bike, (but currently available),  which in your opinion is better, just vote for that one, "simples".

At the end of the day, (after original factory fit),  tyres are a personal choice.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: Beagle on 2020-05-29 11:55:55
Really like these Metzeler Z8s. 2500mls hardly worn and I ride two up always. No white lining and plenty of grip. Will replace with same.


If it aint broke, dont fix it.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200 RT, K26 (2012)
Post by: Peter Baker on 2020-05-29 12:01:21
Hopefully, this will minimise the risk of being caught out with the centre of the tyre breaking up & showing threads whilst the rest of the tyre still looks good.


No:-) I had Z8s on my K1600GT all wear indicators good and all of a sudden canvas/steel showing on centre of tyre, current RT has them fitted as OEM but they will be replaced with RoadTec01 or PR5s as soon as they are done...  Peter
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2020-05-29 12:07:26
I had Z8's on my K1600GT all wear indicators good and all of a sudden canvas/steel showing on centre of tyre, current RT has them fitted as OEM.

Thanks Peter, the centre of the Z8's are still a concern but a slight improvement over the Z6's.

(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o716/Juice1601/hardride_zpsdde5a63a.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: Beagle on 2020-05-29 12:18:53
I’ll have had my monies worth out of my tyres at 5000 miles so they’ll get changed then anyway. Will never get to canvas.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2020-05-29 22:46:11
After 20 votes, Michelin Road 5 GT's are currently "top of the pops", they'll keep you staying upright!
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2020-08-05 14:30:19
After 36 votes.

Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT's are now "neck & neck" with Road 5 GT's, (7 votes each).

Closely followed by Metzeler Z8's & 01's, (6 votes each).
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: Wierpig on 2020-08-21 05:01:15
I voted for roadtec 01s because that's what I have fitted to my 1250 at the moment. It's not a recommendation though as they've been noisy throughout and at 5k miles the rear, whilst still legal, is worn unusually and looks distorted. Any recommendations for a quiet ride?
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2020-08-21 07:50:17
Any recommendations for a quiet ride?

I use Dunlop Roadsmarts (original) on my Camhead, plus wear moulded ear plugs.
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: hammo on 2020-08-21 08:59:31
I fitted Michelin Road Pilot 4 ,s to my 1200 RTLE , Done 1500 mile on them and at present well happy great grip in the wet and dry hope to get around 8000/9000 mile before next change .
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: stayingupright on 2020-08-31 22:01:19
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/advice/best/sports-touring-tyres/ (https://www.motorcyclenews.com/advice/best/sports-touring-tyres/)
Title: Re: Poll of Tyre Options - R 1200/1250 RT
Post by: David. on 2020-08-31 23:06:12
After 53 votes, Michelin Pilot Road 4GT's are top of the pops.