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BMW R 1200RT => BMW R 1200RT Tech and Performance => Topic started by: knme on 2016-12-26 11:52:57

Title: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: knme on 2016-12-26 11:52:57
Hi
Have a 2010RT which i am happy about but think could do well with a little bit more grunt. So I've been reading about various tuning or performance kits/approaches.
Was wondering if anyone has experience with this kit: http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/dyno-boost-motorcycle-performance-chip/bmw/r1200rt (http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/dyno-boost-motorcycle-performance-chip/bmw/r1200rt)
Does it deliver as claimed? And perhaps more importantly, are there any side effects or arguments against making such changes? Specifically thinking about any form of engine wear or degradation.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-26 16:00:21
Sounds like a bit of a "hit & miss" approach to performance tuning. Cutting & splicing wires doesn't seem very professional.

Booster Plug, http://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boosterplug-bmw-r1200rt-193p.html may be an alternative which fits OEM connectors.

More "grunt" is usually best achieved with more cc's.

Exhaust gas analysis & tuning on a dyno may give better more reliable results.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: knme on 2016-12-26 17:30:39
DaygloDavid,

Thanks & agree the solution looks a bit hobby'ish, might still work though.
Else the booster plug does come across as a solid option. I'll consider that :) 
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTman10 on 2016-12-26 17:42:23
Booster plugs have been discussed over the years.  Think they make the bike run a little richer so marginally smoother.  At the end of the day though the general opinion seems to be.  Don't bother sorting out a sorted bike.
I'm sure lots will disagree.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-26 19:08:25
IMO, without exhaust gas analysis, it's just guess work.

I was having a problem with my Yamaha XJ650, it wasn't firing on all four cylinders at idle speed. Took it to a dyno. centre for w.g. analysis & sure enough, no.3 cylinder was too rich & not firing. Following adjustment & checking of all four cylinders, it ran like a dream. The carbs. were then balanced & job done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpZ9DmeBFs

If I wasn't happy with the performance of my 2012 TC RT, then yes I'd do something about it, but it's quick enough for me.
A local in Norway told me that the Police are pretty hot on anyone exceeding the speed limit, which I'm sure the RT will.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-27 11:43:26
Having done some more research, if I wanted to improve the performance of my RT, I'd go down the ECU remapping route, not bolt on/plug in chips or plugs.

For stoichiometric combustion of fuel (petrol),  the air-fuel ratio (AFR) is 15.0:1.

Booster Plug claim to add 6% more fuel, resulting in the AFR creating a richer mixture from approx. 14.4:1 to 13.6:1.

Looking back at this RTLC Remapped thread, /index.php?topic=1348.0, Hilltop give upper & lower AFR limits of 13.5:1 & 12.5:1 respectively.

The Dyno run charts show that before remapping, the AFR was above the upper limit throughout the RPM range & started off above 20.0:1, before levelling off at about 4,000 RPM, running just above the upper AFR limit after that.
After remapping, the AFR started off at near stoichiometric, reducing to the upper limit at around 3,000 RPM, then remaining between the upper & lower limits throughout the RPM range.

The remapping results look far better than the "plug & play" options.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: Mike on 2016-12-27 12:20:46
Hi
Have a 2010RT which i am happy about but think could do well with a little bit more grunt. So I've been reading about various tuning or performance kits/approaches.
Was wondering if anyone has experience with this kit: http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/dyno-boost-motorcycle-performance-chip/bmw/r1200rt (http://www.magnumtuning.com/en/detail/dyno-boost-motorcycle-performance-chip/bmw/r1200rt)
Does it deliver as claimed? And perhaps more importantly, are there any side effects or arguments against making such changes? Specifically thinking about any form of engine wear or degradation.
Thanks!
The TC engine is a Megamoto detuned engine. When discussing LC V TC a while ago RT Man thought it used to be about 135 BHP. If you want more grunt, you may all ready have they been latent capacity.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-27 12:36:33
The TC engine is a Megamoto detuned engine. When discussing LC V TC a while ago RT Man thought it used to be about 135 BHP. If you want more grunt, you may all ready have they been latent capacity.

That's a very good point, what was done to the Megamoto/HP2 engine before it was fitted to the TC RT.

Get the TC RT up to that spec. & blow away the LC in the process.

The remapped LC achieved an increase in bhp of nearly 20%, if the same can be done with a TC, 110 bhp + 20% = 132 bhp, job done.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: leonjennings on 2016-12-27 13:50:23
but what about insurance?

Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTman10 on 2016-12-27 17:28:22


The remapped LC achieved an increase in bhp of nearly 20%, if the same can be done with a TC, 110 bhp + 20% = 132 bhp, job done.



That very much depends on who's figures you look at.  I have seen it shown as Sod all difference.   The megamoto also had some ridiculous service schedule like every 1K. So I suspect same valve gear and everything else different.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: Paggers on 2016-12-27 18:06:07
Given how manufacturers map engines (i.e. a compromise between performance and economy) it should always be possible to increase performance with a re-map, if you are willing to accept the trade-off in fuel consumption. It is also important to bear in mind that increasing the point 'peak' BHP figure is often at the expense of performance at other points in the rev range.

Where mapping normally comes into its own is in evening out the curves to give more consistent performance across the rev range. It is quite possible to have no difference in peak BHP or torque and yet to completely change the way in which an engine performs, making it much faster overall and more enjoyable to ride.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: Mike on 2016-12-27 18:15:57

The remapped LC achieved an increase in bhp of nearly 20%, if the same can be done with a TC, 110 bhp + 20% = 132 bhp, job done.



That very much depends on who's figures you look at.  I have seen it shown as Sod all difference.   The megamoto also had some ridiculous service schedule like every 1K. So I suspect same valve gear and everything else different.
Megamoto


BMW Service
After the first 10,000 km
and every additional 20,000
km (30,000 km, 50,000
km, 70,000 km, etc.) if this
distance is covered within a
year.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTman10 on 2016-12-27 18:32:36
Where did you find that.  That is suggesting after the first 6000 miles it's every 12000 miles.  That's twice the norm. 


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Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: Mike on 2016-12-27 18:42:39
(PDF) Rider's Manual HP2 Megamoto - BMW Motorrad.
www.bmw-motorrad.de>com>PDF

Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-27 23:20:05
http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/index.html?content=http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/bikes/highperformance/hp2m/hp2m_data.html&notrack=1

The HP2 engine is 133 bhp at 8,750 RPM, max revs are 9,500 RPM.

The Megamoto engine is 113 bhp at 7,500 RPM, max revs are 8,000 RPM.

The HP2 & Megamoto both have torque of 115 Nm at 6,000 RPM, the TC RT has 120 Nm at 6,000 RPM.

The TC RT is 110 bhp at 7,750 RPM, max revs are 8,500 RPM.

Therefore, the engine speed & the compression ratio increases the bhp. The compression ratio is 12.0:1 on both the Megamoto & RT, but 12.5:1 on the HP2.

The cylinder bore & piston stroke is the same on all three engines, the HP2 is likely to have different pistons/cylinder head to increase the compression ratio.

"The HP2 Sport also features all-new cylinder heads, with cam follower valve lifts attached to double overhead camshafts on each cylinder. There are four radial valves on each cylinder, with valve plate diameters of 39 millimetres at the inflow and 33 millimetres at the outflow. Other modifications such as airflow-optimized intake and exhaust ports, new forged pistons and redesigned connecting rods also contribute to the outstanding performance."
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTman10 on 2016-12-28 08:34:27
So the conclusion to this post is knme should scrap his RT and buy an HP2.  Or just buy an HP2 engine and graft it in.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-28 10:34:50
Or just buy an HP2 engine and graft it in.

Exactly what I thought this morning after having done the research last night.

Have a 2010RT which I am happy about but think could do well with a little bit more grunt.

I associate "more grunt" with torque rather that bhp, the RT already has more torque than the HP2.

Looking at the LC for a comparison, it has 125 bhp at 7,750 RPM (same engine speed as the TC),  13.6% more power.
Torque is 125 Nm at a higher engine speed of 6,500 RPM (6,000 RPM for the TC),  4.2% more torque.
Max. engine speed is 9,000 RPM (500 RPM more than the TC).
Compression ration 12.5:1 (12.0:1 on the TC).

The LC has gained 13 kg in weight over the TC, an increase of 4.9%.
If torque is considered as "pulling power", then both the LC & TC check out as more or less the same at 0.45 Nm/kg.
The TC's being available at a slightly lower engine speed.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: blokeonthemove on 2016-12-28 12:28:39
Didn't the HP2 have hideously expensive service requirements like a rebuild at 30k miles. Suggests that they may have been squeezing too much out of that engine. Probably means the LC engine has a lot more to offer, in yearly increments of course!
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTman10 on 2016-12-28 13:04:53

Didn't the HP2 have hideously expensive service requirements like a rebuild at 30k miles. Suggests that they may have been squeezing too much out of that engine. Probably means the LC engine has a lot more to offer, in yearly increments of course!




That's what I thought but got it muddled up with the Mega motor.  All dead ducks now though .
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2016-12-28 18:45:42
Didn't the HP2 have hideously expensive service requirements like a rebuild at 30k miles.

Found this on Boxertrix.com.

The following components have to be replaced:
 - Valve springs, valve collets, top and bottom valve spring retainers and valve stem seals
 - Cylinder-head gaskets
 - Fan impeller for crankcase
 - Pistons with rings and piston pins
 - Conrod bearing shells and conrod cap bolts
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: LAF on 2017-03-07 18:54:25
ON the dyno with a PC V yesterday I got 112.85 and 82.20 at 7785 RPM on a 15 RT.

So pretty accurate on the LC quote.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: LAF on 2017-03-08 13:03:19
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/lafsbmw/RT%20on%20the%20Dyno.jpg)
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: LAF on 2017-05-06 12:40:30
I use a Power Commander V with Autotune, and a Pod 300 to monitor AFR on each cylinder, TPS, and RPM.  And Dyno Tuned on 93 octane. gas.

On a brand new Dyno it put out 113 HP and 88 foot pounds of torque.  Very close to the 10% loss quoted at crank to the real rear wheel numbers.  I was impressed.

Biggest thing is it is not lean anywhere and my cruise range is in the 14.1 AFR.

I spent the money not for power as with these bikes they make about as much power as they can because of how efficient they are.  It cost huge money for HP gains on a already efficient motor.  I did it to make sure my AFR is not too lean anywhere to keep heat down on the motor which is the worst enemy of a engine.  Lean heat will kill a motor quick.  Even if i wanted to pay 1000 dollars for a exhaust can I bet the HP would not go up more than 2 HP than I have.  The only other way to gain more is cams and head work and I do not ever remember anyone doing those things in all the years I have been riding and reading about BMW motorcycles.

The Pod 300 allows me to monitor what TPS I am at and what the AFR is so it allows me to tweak it with logging data and not have to dyno tune it every time I need or want to make a change.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: slowvet on 2018-04-25 20:47:47
I love this place.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-08-23 14:22:59
Just had an Accelerator Module, http://www.sol2.be/Performance/ENG/Home/page.html fitted to my TC RT.

Looks like this is a more affordable price than Booster Plug The Original, https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/frontpage.html

Motorcycle Consumer News magazine tested both the above EFI Mods. on a BMW F650GG  in December 2013, http://www.sol2.be/Performance/Images/MCN_1312.pdf and said,

"The Booster Plug’s price is $149.95 including shipping from Denmark. Although we were pleased with the results, we also learned of a product called the Accelerator Module out of Belgium that appeared to provide similar results at a cost of only $45 plus shipping. In the interest of science, we bought one for comparison.

Functionally, there was no difference in performance. Throttle response of these two very differently priced modifications seemed identical."
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: simbo on 2018-08-23 21:32:12
Just had an Accelerator Module, http://www.sol2.be/Performance/ENG/Home/page.html (http://www.sol2.be/Performance/ENG/Home/page.html) fitted to my TC RT.


Have you noticed any difference?
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-08-24 18:39:58
Have you noticed any difference?

Difficult to tell really, only had a short potter around at the moment.

Maybe a slightly crisper throttle response when "blipping" whilst changing down with the clutch pulled in, previously, this felt a little fluffy.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-18 19:51:41
Has anyone had any experience of either Hilltop http://hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/ and/or Race HQ http://racehq.co.uk/ wrt setting up a TC RT.

Any comments and feedback would be most welcome, thanks.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: simbo on 2018-10-18 21:11:16
Has anyone had any experience of either Hilltop http://hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/ (http://hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/)

Any comments and feedback would be most welcome, thanks.


A friend of mine had his F800 remapped at hilltop, he said it made a big difference in smoothing throttle response and better fuelling overall. They also offer a discount on block bookings on the V-Strom forum where again they get good reviews.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTs4me on 2018-10-18 21:55:28
Has anyone had any experience of either Hilltop http://hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/ (http://hilltopmotorcycles.co.uk/) and/or Race HQ http://racehq.co.uk/ (http://racehq.co.uk/) wrt setting up a TC RT.

Any comments and feedback would be most welcome, thanks.


I had my twin-cam RT remapped at Hilltop. It made a very good improvement, over the entire rev range. The initial power and torque curves and AFR were shocking - a dip in power at about 4000rpm (where noise testing is done, I think). The torque curve was very lumpy. AFR was very lean everywhere.


After remapping - what a different bike! Linear power and torque curves, no lumps or bumps. AFR was much better, but strangely, fuel economy was actually improved.


I've since sold (actually part-ex'd for my first LC) the twin-cam and discarded all of my documentation for it, but I seem to remember that the power was only up by about 10hp and torque by about 10NM, not very impressive gains on the face of it, but the way the bike responded to increased throttle openings was the most notable difference. It's difficult to quantify, but the bike just felt better and far more responsive and lots smoother. Even the lumpy idle was improved. When riding, I could run a gear higher than before, for the same road speed, and it would just drive on when the throttle was opened. Very impressive.


I've no regrets and thought that it was money well spent. I had my first LC (2014) remapped on this basis, but I didn't feel that the improvement was as noticeable as it was with the twin-cam. I've just got a new LC and the factory mapping feels very different to the first LC. I don't think I'll be getting this one remapped - it feels pretty good as it is.


Hope this helps  :)
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-19 13:07:21
Thanks for the positive feedback so far, anymore would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-20 12:44:53
More info. from Adventure Rider about ECU Remapping by Hilltop, https://advrider.com/f/threads/e-c-u-remap-by-hilltop-motorcycles.847046/
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: RTs4me on 2018-10-20 19:43:13
More info. from Adventure Rider about ECU Remapping by Hilltop, https://advrider.com/f/threads/e-c-u-remap-by-hilltop-motorcycles.847046/ (https://advrider.com/f/threads/e-c-u-remap-by-hilltop-motorcycles.847046/)


There is also lots of discussion, going back several years, with a positive response on the 'UKGSer.com' forum.


http://www.ukgser.com/forums/search.php?searchid=9924029



Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: simbo on 2018-10-20 20:42:32
Thanks for the positive feedback so far, anymore would be greatly appreciated.


What are you hoping to achieve by having it re-mapped David?
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-20 21:45:31
What are you hoping to achieve by having it re-mapped David?

Smoother idle, crisper throttle response when setting off, less fluffy when "blipping" the throttle during downshifting, occasionally at the moment it feels like there's nothing there.

I intend to keep the bike, it would be nice to improve the ride & experience.

I'm not looking for any power gains, just to have the bike set up with the correct AFR for best performance, not noise levels or emissions etc.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: stayingupright on 2018-10-21 14:53:31
Smoother idle, crisper throttle response when setting off, less fluffy when "blipping" the throttle during downshifting, occasionally at the moment it feels like there's nothing there.




If you go any quicker David, you may end up losing your licence ..  ;)
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-21 18:38:11
Having spoken to someone today who has a Boosterplug "The Original", https://www.boosterplug.com/shop/boosterplug-bmw-r1200r-339p.html fitted to his R1200R LC and is happy with the resulting performance, may consider one myself.

Has anyone had any experience of fitting a Boosterplug to any R1200 models.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-24 09:14:15
Has anyone had any experience of fitting a Boosterplug to any R1200 models.

Just found this thread, "Boosterplug", /index.php?topic=2191.msg18592#msg18592, some positive feedback.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: milleplod on 2018-10-30 21:19:59
If you're thing of using the Booster Plug, I'd consider this instead - http://www.sol2.be/Performance/ENG/Order/page_BMW.html (http://www.sol2.be/Performance/ENG/Order/page_BMW.html)  £40 plus postage, it's exactly the same thing as the Booster Plug, and a damn sight cheaper! I used one on my K1200 R-Sport prior to fitting a PCIII - it helped, but I reckon that as quick as the gadget fooled the ECU into supplying extra fuel, the ECU (re)compensated and we were back to square one! I'm exaggerating slightly, but the positive benefits attributable to the plug certainly weren't permanent. Based on that, I'd say you'll be a lot less disappointed if you've only spent £40!
I had my 1200ST Hilltopped, it was the best £300 I've ever spent on a bike, end of. Low speed running and pick-up in higher gears were vastly improved.....and that's definitely not an exaggeration.
Pete
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-30 22:22:53
Picked up a used Accelerator Module for £15, thought it was worth a go at that price. Not being convinced that the AM made any difference, have now removed it and fitted a new Boosterplug. The BP has not yet been tested as the bike is now SORN'ed & being prepared for hibernation. If the BP doesn't give satisfactory results, I may well consider getting the bike re-mapped at Hilltop later in 2019.

Anymore feedback on Hilltop is most welcome, thanks.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: milleplod on 2018-10-30 23:17:47
It'll be interesting to see if the Boosterplug is any better than the AM - I can't find it now, but ages ago there was a long thread on one of the many BMW forums about the 'technology' involved in these devices, basically (I think) a few pence worth of resistor dressed up in what you see. The resistor simply fools the ECU into 'thinking' the ambient temperature is lower than it is, so extra fuel is supplied.

I found this on UKGSer, not sure if you have to be a member to view - it's not the thread I'm referring to, but looks similar.http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/210687-Accelerator-Module (http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/210687-Accelerator-Module)
Some people rate them, others don't....the same can be said about Hilltop, although I do think the 'ayes' have it for the remap! My ST's throttle was always very 'on/off' at low speeds, making riding around town a pain. After the remap, it was as smooth as silk on the lightest of throttles, even at walking pace. Tickover was much improved, although I'd recently fitted DCPR8EIX plugs, which themselves had made a noticeable difference to it before the remap. I found I could pootle along at 30mph in 5th if I wanted to (usually, I didn't though!),but the best improvement was the way the bike picked up from, say, 50mph in 4th or 5th - much, much better, more ooomph...it almost felt like a different bike. I know we all want - really want! - not to have wasted our hard-earned, and can fall into the wishful-thinking camp, but I know the improvements I felt were real-world ones, not imaginary. Anyway, Geoff offers a money-back refund if you're not happy, together with a return to the standard mapping. His remap uses space on the ECU, so it's not an overwrite, the original is always there.
Pete
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-31 08:11:39
Anyway, Geoff offers a money-back refund if you're not happy, together with a return to the standard mapping. His remap uses space on the ECU, so it's not an overwrite, the original is always there.

That's useful & re-assuring to know. Hilltop at Hinckley is a 330 miles round trip for me.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: milleplod on 2018-10-31 09:25:51
That's useful & re-assuring to know. Hilltop at Hinckley is a 330 miles round trip for me.
I bet you'd enjoy the ride home more than the ride there!  :)
Pete
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2018-10-31 10:33:26
I bet you'd enjoy the ride home more than the ride there!

If I do go ahead with the re-map, it may well coincide with the trip to Shrewsbury for the RT annual meet in July 2019. The ride out on Saturday 6th July could be entertaining.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: BoB21 on 2018-10-31 11:54:46
Hmmmmmm might get the 1250!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2019-01-02 12:33:04
Accelerator Module review, http://www.airheadmoto.com/reviews/2015/2/accelerator-module
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: milleplod on 2019-01-02 23:49:57
I picked up a used one of these the other day - £35. Seems to be a variation on the theme of tricking the ecu into supplying extra fuel - this one's adjustable, so it'll be interesting to see if it does anything worthwhile! M&P are knocking them out for around £90
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Pete
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2019-01-03 11:01:09
Procom Powerjet Fuel Controller for 2012 RT, http://www.procomeng.com/estore/pe-pj-004.html

M&P, https://www.mandp.co.uk/pe-pj-004-power-jet-fuel-controller.html

Procom Powerjet, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R6UWbPT8as

"After figuring out what setting works best with your specific engine/exhaust/intake combination you typically would leave it alone."
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2019-03-24 18:41:11
Not being convinced that the AM made any difference, have now removed it and fitted a new Boosterplug. The BP has not yet been tested as the bike is now SORN'ed & being prepared for hibernation.

Fired the bike up today for the first time with the BP fitted. After being stood for 5 months, it immediately started with ease. Just a thought, I wonder if the BP has had any impact on starting. In previous years, the bike has struggled to start after being stored over winter.
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: milleplod on 2019-03-31 10:06:18
I picked up a used one of these the other day - £35. Seems to be a variation on the theme of tricking the ecu into supplying extra fuel - this one's adjustable, so it'll be interesting to see if it does anything worthwhile! M&P are knocking them out for around £90
(Attachment Link)
Pete
I took my RT for its MoT on Friday, which it passed with flying colours, I'm pleased to say - it was my first ride with the Procom unit fitted. I'd set it to the 2nd mark on the scale - no reasoning behind that choice at all! I'm happy to report that there's definitely been a very noticeable improvement in low-speed running. I can trickle along in traffic quite happily in 3rd/4th gear, and the bike will then pick up cleanly from 20-30mph without hesitation. Previously, I would have had to have been in a lower gear. What's also noticeable is the improved fuelling at walking-pace - no more clutch-slipping needed, for example when executing a turn from a standstill, the engine-running is consistent on the lightest of throttle openings.
I'm impressed with this bit of kit, well worth a try before spending money on a full Hilltop setup, PC or similar, especially if, like me, you just need the low-speed stuff improving.
Pete
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: Sullivj on 2019-03-31 19:52:48
David, Good to hear it fired up OK.


Is it the Procom PE-PJ-004 that you have fitted?
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: milleplod on 2019-03-31 20:09:01
David, Good to hear it fired up OK.


Is it the Procom PE-PJ-004 that you have fitted?
Yep, they list that one version for the 1100/1150s and aircooled 1200s. Tbh, I've no doubt that all the units are the same except for the manufacturer-specific connector plugs.
Pete
Title: Re: Performance tuning kit for R1200RT (Air/Oil cooled)
Post by: David. on 2019-04-15 08:35:11
It'll be interesting to see if the Boosterplug is any better than the AM.

Rode the bike spiritedly yesterday for the first time this year. IMO, the BP is definitely an improvement on the AM. The throttle response is crisper & the bike pulls harder when accelerating. It's less "fluffy" when blipping the throttle whilst changing down. More of a pleasure to ride.

If re-mapping produces even better results, then I'd certainly consider getting it done in the future.