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BMW R 1200RT => BMW R 1200RT tires/tyres, oils etc. => Topic started by: Casbar on 2019-09-12 17:04:44

Title: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: Casbar on 2019-09-12 17:04:44
Road 5 GTs have been released, not sure how long it will be for stock to build up though. Wonder it there will be discounts on the 4GT now :)
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: David. on 2019-09-12 17:12:32
Michelin continue to offer Pilot Road 2, 3 & 4's.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: Casbar on 2019-09-12 17:30:09
Michelin continue to offer Pilot Road 2, 3 & 4's.


Guess that is a no then  ;)
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: gogs01 on 2019-09-12 22:59:41
Michelin continue to offer Pilot Road 2, 3 & 4's.


I liked PR3s.  I couldn't find anyone in the area who could get them in sizes suitable for the R1200RT.  If anyone knows of a source for PR3s in 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17, please let me know.
I had to settle for PR4GTs, as recommended by BMW.   :)
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: David. on 2019-09-12 23:17:22
Looks like Michelin have dropped the PR3 rear 180/55 ZR17. The front 120/70 ZR17 is still available.

Found this rear one on ebay, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180-55-17-73W-Michelin-PILOT-ROAD-3-Rear-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Tyre-180-55ZR17-/163830733958?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: paulgelineau on 2019-11-21 18:37:11
Installed a set of Road 5's on my 2015 RT.  4-k miles on them so far.  The feel is more solid/secure in wet conditions than with the Road 4 GT's previously run.  I assume that's due to the more effective water displacement tread design.  I'm not a real aggressive rider, although I do like to "bend around the curves" so I'll see how the wear factor goes.  I got about 8-K miles out of both sets of Road 4 GT's I had previously.
Cheers from the Okanogan Highlands of WA. State, USA
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: Rider1260 on 2020-05-12 01:30:39
I just installed Road 5 GT on my 2008 RT , why is it so cold and rainy in may ;( can't wait to try them out , it is a cool looking tread pattern
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: jordanv on 2020-05-17 23:26:16
I just replaced my Michelin Road 5 GT's after 3,900 miles with Pirelli Angel GT's[/size] . Front tire down to the wear bars at the center and side. Back tire down to the wear bars at the center, but some rubber left on the sides.


Positives - Tires handled well to end of life - best handling tires at end of life when considering a mild flat spot on back tire. Good adhesion all all road surfaces during cold and wet conditions. Never slipped and were quick to warm up. Quick turn in and stable at high speeds.


Negatives - short life. The original Metzeler Z8's lasted 4,100 miles, but were not down to the wear bars on the front or back. Worse trait - the GT's were also very twitchy with tar stakes, road stripes, small rocks, road cracks (total opposite of the OE Z8's which were much more stable). More pucker moments than any tire I have ridden [/size](especially when leaned over). As a result I never felt confident with these tires like I had with the Metzeler[/size] Z8's or Pirelli Angel GT's.  [/size]For this reason I will never own another set. [/font][size=78%]       [/size]
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: scunny12 on 2020-05-17 23:54:50
A  few contradictions in the positives and negatives???  Personally quite like the PR4's front and back, but I am at an age when I don't ride that aggressively anymore.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: Casbar on 2020-05-18 09:14:22
I just replaced my Michelin Road 5 GT's after 3,900 miles with Pirelli Angel GT's[/size] . Front tire down to the wear bars at the center and side. Back tire down to the wear bars at the center, but some rubber left on the sides.


Positives - Tires handled well to end of life - best handling tires at end of life when considering a mild flat spot on back tire. Good adhesion all all road surfaces during cold and wet conditions. Never slipped and were quick to warm up. Quick turn in and stable at high speeds.


Negatives - short life. The original Metzeler Z8's lasted 4,100 miles, but were not down to the wear bars on the front or back. Worse trait - the GT's were also very twitchy with tar stakes, road stripes, small rocks, road cracks (total opposite of the OE Z8's which were much more stable). More pucker moments than any tire I have ridden [/size](especially when leaned over). As a result I never felt confident with these tires like I had with the Metzeler[/size] Z8's or Pirelli Angel GT's.  [/size]For this reason I will never own another set. [/font][size=78%]       [/size]


If you were happy with the Z8s, did you not consider the Metzer 01s? I always had PR4GTs on my 1200s and was happy. I have Z8s on my 1250 and have found them very good, so may stay with Metzlers.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: stayingupright on 2020-05-18 12:08:17
I was one of the first in the country to get a set of 5GT's. Before that I had the 4's from new.
The difference between the 4's and 5's Is huge. The 5's are so much better
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: David. on 2020-05-18 12:28:00
Z8's & PR4GT's are still recommended by BMW Motorrad,
https://www.bmw-motorrad.com/content/dam/bmwmotorradnsc/common/downloads/manuals/tyre-options/R-Modelle.pdf.asset.1561966913863.pdf
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: beemerboy9 on 2020-05-18 13:28:25
I am sure one could spend many happy hours reading through the rules and regulations of the German ABE (Allgemeines Betriebserlaubnis) regarding certification of everything from tyres to handlebar risers to pannier case supports or even exhaust cans. The purpose of the ABE is to ensure that vehicles are safe on the road.


If one was barmy enough to mount Michelin Karoo 3 knobblies in a H-D Electraglide and one was stopped by a German copper, one might well be expected to provide an ABE certificate for mounting those tyres on that vehicle.


No one is going to be fussed if a tyre of a suitable specification is mounted.


The 1200RT is right on the borderline between requiring ordinary and GT tyres (according to a chat with a Michelin tech support guy on last occasion that I needed tyres). If one carries a pillion (which BMW assume one would, having purchased that type of machine),then GT tyres are highly recommended. If one only ever rode solo, one could get away with the ordinary PR5.
For example, a Honda CB1300 weighs the same as a R1200RT LC with panniers and no topbox and Michelin recommend the ordinary PR5 on their website.


In the end it is down to common sense, which I will assume that everyone on this forum possesses.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: DaveCly on 2020-05-18 13:55:39
I have had two pairs of 4GT’s on my 1200 but ridden the 5GT’s on the Blood Bikes in my opinion the 5’s are a far better tyre and will definitely try them on mine shortly.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: Casbar on 2020-05-18 18:37:49
I have had two pairs of 4GT’s on my 1200 but ridden the 5GT’s on the Blood Bikes in my opinion the 5’s are a far better tyre and will definitely try them on mine shortly.


There is a chap who has posted on UKGSER about his 5GTs on his RT. Positives good grip in the dry and wet. Negatives, squirmy on tar lines and white lines and he is down to the wear bars after 3500 miles.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: MikeS on 2020-05-18 19:19:54
I don't think I could live with tyres that were worn out at 3500 miles.  My Z8's are just over half worn (according to the service guys at BMW) at 5500 miles.
I'll change them before I get anywhere near the wear indicators.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: DaveCly on 2020-05-18 19:55:48
I agree 3500 miles is not good, I’ll have to check how many miles the BB RT’s have done !
I’ve changed the 4GT’s at 7/7.5k each time!
Can’t say I’ve noticed any squirming on the 5’s felt a lot more sure footed all round!
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: stayingupright on 2020-05-19 08:39:31
I always found that the 4's took a few miles from starting to get up to working temperature. The 5's on the other hand are on the ball straight away and just inspire confidence.
Have not tried any of the other tyres so cannot comment but will order another set of these when needed.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: Old-Git on 2020-05-20 09:10:48
I have Metz Roadtech 01s. 6k out of the rear, front still looks ok - ish. Might try pirelli angel GT 2s next.
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: DaveCly on 2020-05-20 13:53:12
I agree 3500 miles is not good, I’ll have to check how many miles the BB RT’s have done !
I’ve changed the 4GT’s at 7/7.5k each time!
Can’t say I’ve noticed any squirming on the 5’s felt a lot more sure footed all round!


Well quite surprised 6700 miles to date, I took the bike to be fitted with them, so know mileage is correct
Not much twisty stuff, and mainly motorway miles !  😁👍
Title: Re: Michelin Road 5GTs
Post by: hammo on 2020-05-21 15:48:21
Wow 3500 miles and worn out ? i would send them back to the manufacturer for an explanation something wrong there !!!!!