Post by: simbo on 2020-10-15 19:11:14
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Post by: simbo on 2020-10-15 19:33:16
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Post by: MikeS on 2020-10-15 20:02:02
https://youtu.be/WmGCGLL29ls (https://youtu.be/WmGCGLL29ls)
Post by: Casbar on 2020-10-15 20:24:06
Post by: hammo on 2020-10-15 21:29:31
Post by: tojjer on 2020-10-15 22:47:00
I want one
Can't afford one though :-)
Post by: TJRL on 2020-10-15 23:18:10
I love:-
- The active cruise control (and linked to lean angle!),
- Adaptive LED headlights,
- The extra 3 "favourites" buttons,
- Better horn,
- Moving the aerial off the front of the bike,
- Better audio system,
- Back-lit buttons.
- The TFT screen. If only they had left the speedo and rev counter analogue and put a big TFT in the middle,
- Additional "wonder wheeling" that will be needed to change displays to what I want to see at a particular point in the ride,
- The look of the front end, the lights look too small making the vast fairing look very odd,
- The black wheels the blue bikes get.
- The reverse gear,
- In-built dashcams front and rear,
- Automatic gearbox (a tall order I know but it is 2021 and auto is the future!),
- Better mirrors?
Post by: ymfb on 2020-10-15 23:51:34
Great, next April my bike will be 2 years old :) Like the Blue
The Beta version might be out by then
Post by: Easyrider5258 on 2020-10-16 08:23:39
Post by: Casbar on 2020-10-16 09:36:27
Notice the Heated seats are now extra, only heated grips standard, wonder if I can swap the heated seats from my 06/2019 R1250RT to the new one?? are they just "Plug and Play" ???
The basic spec is the SE, the LE gets heated seats the same as it always has.
Post by: Arek on 2020-10-16 09:48:56
Great, next April my bike will be 2 years old :) Like the Blue
Mine will have 2 years next July.
New one looks nice, but I'm not sure if change will be worth that. Will wait until you swap it and give some comparison be
Post by: Sprintgull on 2020-10-16 10:19:49
Post by: Easyrider5258 on 2020-10-16 10:32:17
Post by: bushbikie on 2020-10-16 11:18:19
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Post by: hammo on 2020-10-16 14:18:37
Post by: Casbar on 2020-10-16 15:14:39
Trying to find out how sophisticated the new navigation is on the TFT, would like to be able to route plan, insert waypoints, like the Nav 6, or is it a simple A to B navigation device??
From what I read the Nav on the TFT is dumb. You Nav from a BMW app on your phone, so if you can put a route into the app, then the TFT will handle it. So you will probably have to plan a route on something to produce a file compatible with the BMW App.
Post by: Easyrider5258 on 2020-10-16 15:59:28
From what I read the Nav on the TFT is dumb. You Nav from a BMW app on your phone, so if you can put a route into the app, then the TFT will handle it. So you will probably have to plan a route on something to produce a file compatible with the BMW App.
Your right, since found out that's the case, speed camera warnings? was quite keen on this new model earlier, but losing enthusiasm now somewhat, configurator shows Alpine White with black wheels which I liked, now told cant have them, looking at various shots of different screens on the TFT left me not very impressed, why do we need to stare at a great big rev counter all day! ... beginning to prefer my analog dash
Still thinking about it
Post by: Graham88 on 2020-10-16 16:03:35
Post by: Casbar on 2020-10-16 17:52:43
Did someone mention backlit buttons? That would be a nice touch but haven't seen anything about it other than a mention here.
Same poster said their was a better horn as well, how does he know that? Does he work for BMW :)
Post by: Graham88 on 2020-10-16 17:58:28
Post by: michaelc2710 on 2020-10-16 18:22:54
Post by: Casbar on 2020-10-16 20:21:27
Although the release info does mention a 'Double tone fanfare' so I guess that is legit.
Hadn't seen that, will put sound bomb out of business :)
Post by: PatM on 2020-10-17 04:11:25
Trying to find out how sophisticated the new navigation is on the TFT, would like to be able to route plan, insert waypoints, like the Nav 6, or is it a simple A to B navigation device??The TFT display works in conjunction with an app on your cell phone.
The app, BMW Motorrad connected, allows you to import gpx files from other applications and also export gpx files.
Maps download is free and can be downloaded ahead of time for offline use.
Check it out on the play store. I believe iOS and Android versions are available.
Post by: bushbikie on 2020-10-17 04:25:09
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Post by: scunny12 on 2020-10-17 12:13:03
Post by: Old Foxy on 2020-10-17 20:01:06
I'd have preferred better mirrors and seat. Still love my 1250RT, though!
Old Foxy
Post by: Motor32 on 2020-10-18 04:17:13
Steve
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Post by: Casbar on 2020-10-18 10:46:00
How soon until we start seeing this??? Looks like they stayed cheap and kept the Hayes calipers, UNBELIEVABLE !!!
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Yep still fitting US crap :) I actually like the Hayes callipers, they work fine, so Brembo is not top of my wish list
Post by: Glencoe on 2020-10-18 17:56:41
Post by: TJRL on 2020-10-18 19:07:35
No I don't, but read /saw these items in one of the journalist reviews.
Same poster said their was a better horn as well, how does he know that? Does he work for BMW :)
Post by: TJRL on 2020-10-18 19:10:44
TFT looks hideous, much prefer current instrumentation.
+1
I hate the look of the new TFT, but I really should see it for myself before firming up my views.
Post by: beemerboy9 on 2020-10-18 23:42:44
The BMW colour dash is bigger and much better than Yamaha's early effort, but I have been using analogue instruments for 50 years and don't want to change. The digital dashes on cars provide round dials with pointers - so why not bikes?
If the younger generation want to find out what's showing on the cinema via their motorcycle dashboards, they're welcome to it.
The LED lights are an improvement that those who commute and drive at night (Bloodbikers) will really appreciate. I very rarely drive at night, so not a big deal for me personally.
However, I will be most interested to find out how BMW have installed an aerial to pick up DAB radio. [/size]
I also note that the price of an equivalently specc'ed bike to mine has risen from £18.8k to £20.8k.
Post by: Gavj on 2020-10-19 18:39:30
Post by: MikeS on 2020-10-22 22:53:27
I do like the option 719 paint and sport wheels with the brown seat.........maybe worth a look ;)
Just played about on the configurator, mineral white metallic (option 719) is a £1740 option. I know its got a few pinstripes but that's a bit steep.
Post by: Talisker on 2020-10-27 20:46:32
Post by: Gadgetech on 2020-10-28 17:13:30
I don’t think the clocks look bad as they are but for me, I love the technology and simply wouldn’t consider the analog style, especially given the beautiful TFT BMW have. For a disclaimer, I haven’t had an analog dash on a bike for over 5 years.
Post by: Levisp on 2020-10-28 17:41:25
Post by: bighopper on 2020-10-28 19:47:48
I think what is really good about the new TFT screens is the ability to connect the BMW Motorrad Connect app to the bike. I have old style bike so it's going to be a few more years before I will upgrade but I did download the app to see what it does. Looks good. Very easy to both import and export GPX routes. Saves routes. Apparently then can connect to bike to navigate. There are a few videos showing how it works. If the navigation is accurate then its going to be the end of Garmin SatNavs. At the moment the navigation is by direction arrow and distance. However at the end of one of the videos the developer showed a glimpse of the future, showing a Map display on the righthand side of the big 10 inch screen. Think this could be really neat.I am also trying to figure out how the Navigation is going to work. Using the BMW Connect app isn't going to provide the MAP to the new TFT screen via Bluetooth...too much data. So the maps will have to reside on the TFT system as I see it to provide the speed required to navigate with the map displayed.Nothing I can find that talks about how this function actually works.
Post by: Levisp on 2020-10-28 20:58:20
Post by: beemerboy9 on 2020-10-28 21:44:10
I think what is really good about the new TFT screens is the ability to connect the BMW Motorrad Connect app to the bike. I have old style bike so it's going to be a few more years before I will upgrade but I did download the app to see what it does. Looks good. Very easy to both import and export GPX routes. Saves routes. Apparently then can connect to bike to navigate. There are a few videos showing how it works. If the navigation is accurate then its going to be the end of Garmin SatNavs. At the moment the navigation is by direction arrow and distance. However at the end of one of the videos the developer showed a glimpse of the future, showing a Map display on the righthand side of the big 10 inch screen. Think this could be really neat.
OK - I get this. Currently I use a 24" monitor connected to a PC to do route planning. What instrument does BMW envisage that I will be using in the future - presumably with the app loaded?
Post by: Levisp on 2020-10-28 22:37:19
OK - I get this. Currently I use a 24" monitor connected to a PC to do route planning. What instrument does BMW envisage that I will be using in the future - presumably with the app loaded?
Route plan on anything you like and download route as a GPX file. Import file into app and save for future use. Simples. Or they may go down the MYDrive TomTom or Calimoto route and have a web planner sync to app. I planned a route on the Calimoto web planner and exported the file as GPX. Then moved the file to iCloud where my iPhone could see it. The app was used to import file and save within app. Very easy.
Another approach is to plan using Google. Copy URL. Then paste into Maps to GPX web page which can then convert it to GPX and download to hard drive.
Basically use any method that can produce a GPX file.
Post by: PatM on 2020-10-28 23:07:29
I am also trying to figure out how the Navigation is going to work. Using the BMW Connect app isn't going to provide the MAP to the new TFT screen via Bluetooth...too much data. So the maps will have to reside on the TFT system as I see it to provide the speed required to navigate with the map displayed.Nothing I can find that talks about how this function actually works.This isn't something new, we get that with Apple Car Play and Android Auto on car audio systems. Look at it as an app similar to Waze or Google Maps but BMW branded. The maps remain on your cell. The nice part, the BMW Connected app allows you to download the maps ahead of time through wifi so the app can be used even if you don't have cell phone connection or no data plan.
Post by: Levisp on 2020-10-29 10:42:10
This isn't something new, we get that with Apple Car Play and Android Auto on car audio systems. Look at it as an app similar to Waze or Google Maps but BMW branded. The maps remain on your cell. The nice part, the BMW Connected app allows you to download the maps ahead of time through wifi so the app can be used even if you don't have cell phone connection or no data plan.
Most good apps for navigation allow for downloading of maps for offline use. TomTom Go, Sygic, Scenic and Calimoto to name just a few I have tried. Of all these Calimoto is an interesting app and Web Planner for creating motorcycle curvy routes. The Web Planner can export a planned route as GPX. Useful if you want to navigate by another means other than their app.
Post by: PatM on 2020-10-29 22:15:18
Most good apps for navigation allow for downloading of maps for offline use. TomTom Go, Sygic, Scenic and Calimoto to name just a few I have tried. Of all these Calimoto is an interesting app and Web Planner for creating motorcycle curvy routes. The Web Planner can export a planned route as GPX. Useful if you want to navigate by another means other than their app.
Waze and Google Maps will work with Apple Car Play and Android Auto. Will those apps do that?
Post by: Levisp on 2020-10-29 22:29:17
Waze and Google Maps will work with Apple Car Play and Android Auto. Will those apps do that?
TomTom GO and Sygic will work will Apple Car Play. I use TomTom GO and it works really well. Sygic not used but its a well established app so I'm sure it works well with Car Play. Note Sygic charge extra for Car Play. TomTom Go its all part of the app.
Post by: PatM on 2020-10-31 04:25:24
The BMW Motorrad Connected app is made by TomTom, I suppose they're using the same code. We'll see how good it turns out.
TomTom GO and Sygic will work will Apple Car Play. I use TomTom GO and it works really well. Sygic not used but its a well established app so I'm sure it works well with Car Play. Note Sygic charge extra for Car Play. TomTom Go its all part of the app.
Post by: bandytales on 2020-11-04 14:01:14
Post by: scunny12 on 2020-11-04 16:56:30
Post by: Graham88 on 2020-11-04 17:24:13
You're stuck with that TFT display, like it or loathe it.
Post by: hammo on 2020-11-04 17:38:05
Post by: bandytales on 2020-11-04 18:46:14
It will be interesting to see if BMW have listened to the points that were made by current owners ie: seat comfort , a proper windscreen , adjustable handlebars, to name a few , i live in hope if not i will be hanging on to my 2018 RTLE a few more years to come .Well they certainly have given you a choice with the handlebars because you can specify conventional tubular handlebars (£200 extra!) and play with them to your hearts content.
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Post by: hammo on 2020-11-04 19:32:40