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OfflineLevisp

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    Re: Oil filters and oil weight
    « Reply #15 on: 2019-08-18 13:40:14 »
    For my 2012 TC, the BMW Advantec 15W-50 is £18.43 per litre x 4 = £73.72.

    Got some Putoline Sport 4 15W-50 for £7.49 per litre x 4 = £29.96.


    BMW oil pricing is taking the piss especially as they must get it cheap by buying in bulk. My Castrol oil bought in 16 litre pack worked out at about £8 something a litre half BMW price.

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      « Reply #16 on: 2019-08-18 13:42:55 »
      Bearing in mind the fussy oil-lubricated clutches on the LC machines and the tiny apertures that oil has to flow through to move around the engine&gearbox to enable the clutch release, I will be sticking to 5W/40 oils.


      Not quite sure I see this. As both oils will have the same viscosity once the engine is at operating temperature why would 10W40 act any different to 5W40 ?

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        Re: Oil filters and oil weight
        « Reply #17 on: 2019-08-18 14:37:18 »
        BMW oil pricing is taking the piss.

        Oil filters too, BMW = £18.07, HiFlo = £4.50.

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          « Reply #18 on: 2019-08-18 17:12:36 »
          Oil filters too, BMW = £18.07, HiFlo = £4.50.


          Thats a very good price. Just bought a HiFlo filter for my bike from Wemoto and the price was £6.26 and I thought that was cheap.

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            « Reply #19 on: 2019-08-18 18:02:55 »
            Thats a very good price.

            It's a trade price, the TC & LC prices are the same at £4.50.

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              Re: Oil filters and oil weight
              « Reply #20 on: 2019-08-18 19:07:27 »

              Hors,
              We don’t have a 5/40 weight synthetic oil in the US.


              Tim - I use Castrol Power1 4T motorcycle oil, and it's definitely available in the US.  You can get a 6-pk on Amazon, it meets or exceeds all the same specs as Advantec oil.  Also, if you are a BMW MOA member, they often have promo codes you can use to get a big discount on it, I think I paid like $27 for the last 6-pk I bought.


              [size=78%]https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008MISDII?aaxitk=gZ3hrswgtz4Iy1Rj377Gog&pd_rd_i=B008MISDII&pf_rd_p=9420597b-7dad-4cbd-a28d-7d676ac67378&hsa_cr_id=6646355650201&sb-ci-n=productDescription&sb-ci-v=Castrol%2006113%20Power1%204T%205W-40%20Synthetic%20Motorcycle%20Oil%2C%201%20Quart%20Bottle%2C%206%20Pack[/size]
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                Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                « Reply #21 on: 2019-08-18 21:44:01 »

                Not quite sure I see this. As both oils will have the same viscosity once the engine is at operating temperature why would 10W40 act any different to 5W40 ?


                Won't make any difference unless you're starting your bike when it's -25c and under, very few tend to ride when it's that cold and probably even less leave their bike outside where it would go to that low a temperature, here in the uk at least.
                The GS 'is' the better bike :-)

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                  Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                  « Reply #22 on: 2019-08-18 22:09:10 »
                  In the UK, (Scotland) oil has to work between these temperature ranges.

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                    Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                    « Reply #23 on: 2019-08-18 23:04:46 »
                    In the UK, (Scotland) oil has to work between these temperature ranges.

                    http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/davidsykes/DSCN1030_zpsdc612d3e.jpg
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                    Not sure what you're implying here?   Frost can develop on a screen at -1c, where's the relevance to -25c? and that's if it's left outside, which the majority of motorcycles aren't, never mind rode.
                    The GS 'is' the better bike :-)

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                      Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                      « Reply #24 on: 2020-08-21 14:30:18 »
                      Another reason for possibly considering 10W40 over 5W40 is availability. In the UK I have only been able to purchase 5W40 in 1 litre bottles. This is not only not very green but more expensive too. However 10W40 is readily available in 4 litre bottles and is cheaper.


                      Now I have not tried 10W40 yet ! I have 2 more oil changes of 5W40 left. Then the bike will have 54K on it and I will try the thicker grade and see if it makes any difference. I will stick with the recommended make for my bike which is Castrol Power 1 Racing 4T


                      Silkolene Pro 4 5w40 is readily available in 4ltr containers via ebay and costs about £50. My last purchase came in an environmentally friendly box similar to a wine box.[/size]

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                        Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                        « Reply #25 on: 2020-08-21 15:16:22 »
                        Thanks Pickaxe for the info.

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                          Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                          « Reply #26 on: 2020-08-22 15:11:42 »
                          Re the 15w50 spec, I've just bought  Smith and Allan's 'own brew' fully synthetic, at £24.00 delivered for 5 ltrs - it meets the API spec as well as the JASO MA2 one (although I believe that's a wet-clutch spec, so not really relevant to my 1200RT). Couple that with my '3 Mahle filters for fifteen quid' find, and that's a nice price for an oil service. I also bought their own GL5-spec gear oil.

                          They've been in the business for over 80 years, and have exceptionally good customer support - I've called them a couple of times for advice, and got to speak to someone who obviously knew lubricants inside out. Highly recommended!
                          https://www.smithandallan.com/

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                            Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                            « Reply #27 on: 2020-08-22 21:09:37 »
                            Another great find Pete, Smith & Allen are only 15 miles away from where I live. If out in that direction, could save the postage too.

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                              Re: Oil filters and oil weight
                              « Reply #28 on: 2020-08-23 13:26:04 »
                              Yes excellent find, very reasonable postage rates. Thanks