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OfflineR2K

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    Meaning of SE
    « on: 2020-02-05 20:54:02 »
    When folks add SE after RT in example R1250RT SE. What does the SE designation mean?


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      Re: Meaning of SE
      « Reply #1 on: 2020-02-05 21:17:09 »
      Haven't got a clue. If I was was asked to guess I would say Special Equipment or let's add a few quid to the price (in German).
      « Last Edit: 2020-02-05 21:20:51 by MikeS »

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        Re: Meaning of SE
        « Reply #2 on: 2020-02-05 21:29:21 »
        Within the current R 1250 RT line up, there are three model variants, R 1250 RT, R 1250 RT SE and R 1250 RT LE, their specifications differ,
        https://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/en/models/tour/r1250rt.html#/section-model-variants

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          Re: Meaning of SE
          « Reply #3 on: 2020-02-05 22:34:07 »
          Not many buy the basic or SE. Think about resale. We use SE and Basic for Blood bikes, no luxuries

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            Re: Meaning of SE
            « Reply #4 on: 2020-02-06 01:10:27 »
            Thanks for all of the replies they were helpful.  It still begs the question if RT is an abbreviation for Road Touring. What does the abbreviation SE and LE translate to?


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              Re: Meaning of SE
              « Reply #5 on: 2020-02-06 08:53:21 »
              Thanks for all of the replies they were helpful.  It still begs the question if RT is an abbreviation for Road Touring. What does the abbreviation SE and LE translate to?


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              R2K, from your profile I cannot tell what country or continent you are in, so I'll give you a UK answer.


              In the UK, we have had a company car system for many years. People with company cars used to measure their "success" by the trim levels of their cars, so we had Ford Cortina L (for Luxury),XL (Xtra Luxury),GT (Grand Touring) and GXL (Grand Xtra Luxury).


              BMW UK decided to introduce this system to bikes and it has been hugely successful, with the same "bragging rights" attributed to the various trim levels. In the UK the top spec LE is the best selling by far, same for the GS's. I won't speculate on the reasons for this.


              If you go onto the German BMW website, you will see that here are some colour options which have names such as Sport (the red one),Elegance (camo Manhattan metallic green) and there are no equipment levels. That's right, no SE and no LE. The Germans buy a basic bike and add the options they want, and they buy their cars exactly the same way.

              So you need to ask BMW UK what the assignations mean, since it is they who have invented them for marketing purposes. I like to call them Special Equipment and Luxury Equipment, but I might very well be completely wrong. David could be right in calling them "why don't you spend a bit more money" designations.
              « Last Edit: 2020-02-06 11:27:25 by beemerboy9 »
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                Re: Meaning of SE
                « Reply #6 on: 2020-02-06 12:27:37 »

                R2K, from your profile I cannot tell what country or continent you are in, so I'll give you a UK answer.


                In the UK, we have had a company car system for many years. People with company cars used to measure their "success" by the trim levels of their cars, so we had Ford Cortina L (for Luxury),XL (Xtra Luxury),GT (Grand Touring) and GXL (Grand Xtra Luxury).


                BMW UK decided to introduce this system to bikes and it has been hugely successful, with the same "bragging rights" attributed to the various trim levels. In the UK the top spec LE is the best selling by far, same for the GS's. I won't speculate on the reasons for this.


                If you go onto the German BMW website, you will see that here are some colour options which have names such as Sport (the red one),Elegance (camo Manhattan metallic green) and there are no equipment levels. That's right, no SE and no LE. The Germans buy a basic bike and add the options they want, and they buy their cars exactly the same way.

                So you need to ask BMW UK what the assignations mean, since it is they who have invented them for marketing purposes. I like to call them Special Equipment and Luxury Equipment, but I might very well be completely wrong. David could be right in calling them "why don't you spend a bit more money" designations.
                Thank you, that helps.  I am located in the US and the designations must European. 


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                  Re: Meaning of SE
                  « Reply #7 on: 2020-02-06 16:38:30 »
                  Hi R2K,


                  In the USA you get either a base model or the Select package ,which has every option going. The Select pack sits above our LE spec level because it includes the radio and auxiliary lights.


                  The dealers only have Select models in stock or the order pipeline, right?
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                    Re: Meaning of SE
                    « Reply #8 on: 2020-02-06 19:24:42 »
                    I agree its mind boggling if the RTLE is supposedly the luxury edition how come it does not come with audio ? BMW should give you the option of accessories when you are spending that amount of cash .

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                      Re: Meaning of SE
                      « Reply #9 on: 2020-02-06 21:38:41 »
                      You can keep £1ooo radio and all associated connection hassle. Just saying! :eggs:  would have liked glove box though. :whistle:

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                        Re: Meaning of SE
                        « Reply #10 on: 2020-02-06 23:52:34 »
                        You can keep £1ooo radio and all associated connection hassle. Just saying! :eggs:  would have liked glove box though. :whistle:


                        I understand your point.  My first RT, the 1100, had a radio-cassette player when I bought it second hand and I've not been able to resist them since because I really like listening to the radio. The CD player on the '05 RT was pretty hopeless though.
                        On this one being able to display and change stations on the DAB radio from the wonderwheel is great.

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                          Re: Meaning of SE
                          « Reply #11 on: 2020-02-07 12:23:10 »
                          You can keep £1ooo radio and all associated connection hassle. Just saying! :eggs:  would have liked glove box though. :whistle:


                          I like my radio. Glove box? There is no room. However, once the loudspeakers are removed, there is a huge space (which I use),but would be even better if the covers were hinged and lockable as opposed to the 2 x Torx screws.

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                            Re: Meaning of SE
                            « Reply #12 on: 2020-02-07 12:37:17 »
                            Hi R2K,


                            In the USA you get either a base model or the Select package ,which has every option going. The Select pack sits above our LE spec level because it includes the radio and auxiliary lights.


                            The dealers only have Select models in stock or the order pipeline, right?

                            I think you are correct, most RT’s come with all the options in the US.  I have a 719 with the sport wheels. 


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