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Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:23 am
by DonVulpes
Our Gee wrote: What's an AW ?
Can anyone tell me what AW stands for ?

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:43 am
by David.
DonVulpes wrote:Can anyone tell me what AW stands for?
AW is the BMW workshop unit used to calculate the labour cost for each service item, based on an AW of 12.00 for 1 hour.

On the service invoice, each maintenance item has an AW to work out the labour cost.

For example, with an hourly labour rate of £87.25 + VAT @ 20%, changing brake fluid, rear brakes has an AW of 2 / 12 x £87.25 = £14.54 + VAT.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:45 am
by Ganesh
Hi, this might seem a silly question, when you do the service yourself what happens to the service book? It seems a lot of weight is put on this when reselling.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:24 am
by David.
Ganesh wrote:When you do the service yourself what happens to the service book? It seems a lot of weight is put on this when reselling.
On this occasion, the service wasn't completely done by myself, a BMW dealer did some bespoke service items, which resulted in the service book being stamped.

On a previous 2010 RT which was part-ex'd for my present 2012 model, it had some independent (non-BMW dealer) service stamps in the book.
Because the service book was stamped up to date, the BMW dealer wasn't bothered & gave me a good price, based on it's condition & service history.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:36 pm
by Oldbrook
Had 24000 service on mine yesterday by main dealer. £482 inc vat. Dave

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:10 pm
by David.
My most recent DIY/BMW service was at 21,500 miles, I did it as if the bike had done 24,000 miles & was 5 years old, therefore, it's a 12,000 miles plus annual service.

The following work was completed.
Oil change, engine, with filter (BMW)
Checking valve clearance (DIY)
Gearbox-oil change (DIY)
Replace all spark plugs (DIY)
Replace air filter cartridge (DIY)
Changing brake fluid, front & rear brakes (BMW)
Correcting engine synchronization (BMW)

The total cost of parts, plus BMW labour was £248.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:25 pm
by David.
Placed another order with OPIE Oils, they "Price Matched" this from 123spareparts, https://www.123spareparts.co.uk/engine- ... /p-OIL-300

Ended up paying £38 (inc. P&P) for 4 litres of Castrol Power 1 4T Racing 10w-50 engine oil.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:59 am
by David.
This is the 00 00 111 BMW Service Maintenance Schedule for a Twin Cam.

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Looking back at my last service invoice etc., this is the "full monty" service. BMW deselected the items not required at the particular time/mileage interval and/or those items I choose to do myself. My RT is due an annual service, which is effectively an engine oil & filter change. Other items are just visual, plus, reading the fault memory, re-setting the service due date/mileage and stamping the service book.

I've negotiated a cost of £60 for labour only, parts (oil & filter) will be supplied by myself.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:40 pm
by Sullivj
Why pay them £60 for an oil and filter change, when it's a five minute job? Wouldn't it make sense to DIY?

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:18 pm
by David.
Sullivj wrote:Why pay them £60 for an oil and filter change.
The objective is to maintain the T&C's of the BMW Motorrad Insured Warranty at the least cost to myself, whilst also having a service history, i.e. stamp in the book.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:16 pm
by Sullivj
Fair enough David.


Your recent calliper replacement, proves that the warranty is worth having.  That said, I don't have it on mine, or any of my bikes.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:15 pm
by Levisp
David. wrote: Placed another order with OPIE Oils, they "Price Matched" this from 123spareparts, https://www.123spareparts.co.uk/engine-oils/Castrol/POWER-1-Racing-4T-10W-50/p-OIL-300

Ended up paying £38 (inc. P&P) for 4 litres of Castrol Power 1 4T Racing 10w-50 engine oil.

David I recently used this company https://www.broughtonlubricants.co.uk/c ... -4t-10w-50 if you buy 12 litres works out cheaper. I bought 12 litres of 5W-40 for my LC bike cost £104.59 including delivery works out as £8.72 / litre

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:18 pm
by David.
Morris Lubricants do a Super Sport V Twin 10w-50 Full-Synthetic Motorcycle Oil, https://www.morrislubricantsonline.co.u ... e-oil.html

Can get it at a trade price of £35.36 for 4 litres, that's £8.84 per litre.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 2:58 pm
by David.
In October 2020, my 2012 Camhead will be due a service. Decided to order some oil & a filter from Wemoto.

Have gone for Motorex Boxer oil at £9.60 per litre, https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/bmw/r_1200 ... 50_1_litre
plus a Hiflo oil filter at £6.26 https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/bmw/r_1200 ... lter_hiflo

The bike will have a bespoke service at a BMW dealer. So far have got quotes for the following work, engine oil change with filter (labour only),  replace belt for generator, changing brake fluid F&R and correcting engine synchronisation. Allan Jefferies have come up with £190.98, whilst Cooper at Sunderland want £237.74 for the same work, that's a difference of £46.76. Waiting for a reply from Barrie Robson at York.

Re: 2012 Twin Cam - Service Costs

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:55 pm
by simbo
David. wrote: In October 2020, my 2012 Camhead will be due a service. Decided to order some oil & a filter from Wemoto.

Have gone for Motorex Boxer oil at £9.60 per litre, https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/bmw/r_1200_rt_k26/12/picture/motorex_boxer_4t_synthetic_15w50_1_litre
plus a Hiflo oil filter at £6.26 https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/bmw/r_1200_rt_k26/12/picture/oil_filter_hiflo

The bike will have a bespoke service at a BMW dealer. So far have got quotes for the following work, engine oil change with filter (labour only), replace belt for generator, changing brake fluid F&R and correcting engine synchronisation. Allan Jefferies have come up with £190.98, whilst Cooper at Sunderland want £237.74 for the same work, that's a difference of £46.76. Waiting for a reply from Barrie Robson at York.

You might get a better price & job if you have the "alternator" belt changed.