2011 R1200RT Brakes

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Moto-bins do these BREMBO (Sintered) Front Brake Pads for £33.60.
https://www.motobins.co.uk/bmw-parts.ph ... ef=R1200RT

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MotorWorks do Brembo (Carbon Ceramic) 07BB2607 front caliper brake pad set EVO BREMBO | BRA72607 for £23.95.
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... 0&spPage=1

BMW: Brake Pads front brake
Original sintered metal brake pads, (note the backing plate).

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Perhaps the key thing is to make sure the Brake Pad friction material type & properties are the same.

The EBC Pads I bought were Double-H Sintered & they didn't work.
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barryj wrote:I had a very quick look and found genuine Brembo at £25.
Please may I ask where did you find them, thanks.
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Has anyone tried the Brembo Pads supplied by the likes of Moto-bins v's the Brembo Pads supplied by BMW Motorrad.
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DaygloDavid wrote:Has anyone tried the Brembo Pads supplied by the likes of Moto-bins v's the Brembo Pads supplied by BMW Motorrad.
Found this posted on UKGSer.

"Last time I changed the Front Pads on our 1200RT I searched high and wide for the same pads as BMW supply but at a cheaper price and it seems that they are not available. The BMW supplied pads have the bonded "heat" ? shim on the backplate. As far as I am aware these are unavailable from other sources. Maybe someone has managed to locate a supplier, if so I would be interested. In the end I ordered Brembo pads described as O.E.M. parts form either Motobins or Motorworks (can't remember which) and they where nothing like the BMW pads. The backplates are bright Red and they don't have the bonded shim mentioned above."
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BMW discs will last forever and a day so long as you use the correct pads.  IMO it's a very false economy to shop around for cheap replacement pads.
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I have just repaved mine on a 2008 rt with ebc, i will let you know how they go.


On a slightly different note my Halfords manual says use copper grease on the back of the pads to stop squeal but other articles say that this is not good for the brake piston seal….What do you do  whatever pads you use
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Hodge wrote:On a slightly different note my Halfords manual says use copper grease on the back of the pads to stop squeal but other articles say that this is not good for the brake piston seal….What do you do whatever pads you use.
The Haynes Manual also says, "Smear the backs of the pads and the shank of the pad pin with copper-based grease".

My thoughts are firstly that, the pads are a loose fit within the caliper & on the pad pin, therefore not likely to seize up.
Secondly, too much copper grease just attracts brake dust, which when combined together produces a dry result.

I think the thing about the brake piston seal is not to use a lubricant which can attack the seals & make them leak.

After recently cleaning the pads & pistons on my RT, I used a smear of ACF-50 on the pistons & pad back plates.
My theory being that ACF-50 is an anti-corrosion product which will also lubricate when using very small quantities.
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I actually meant Haynes…..
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DD, are you sure ACF50 has a high temp rating for use around the brakes? I guess it will just burn off if not (and hopefully not run onto your discs/pads).
Copper grease is able to stand the heat generated, although I only ever use a light smear.
BMW pads, well have a look at these genuine pads that were on the rear of my Boxer Cup replica. They may cost more, but that does not mean better quality ( just like the switchgear on TC's). The friction material and backing plate decided to part company.
I have no complaints about the feel and performance of genuine pads, but have used SBS pads on my 1150gs with good results. No bedding in required and specifically designed for heavy bikes.
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fatnfast wrote:DD, are you sure ACF50 has a high temp rating for use around the brakes? I guess it will just burn off if not (and hopefully not run onto your discs/pads).
Sorry for any confusion, ACF-50 was applied very lightly as part of the preparation to Lay Up/Winter Store the Bike.

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Copper grease on the back of pads I think is a bit old school now. As far as I can remember BMW do not put anything on the back of pads. However BMW do recommend on the rear pads the square end that goes into the calliper retainer has a smear of anti seize grease. For this copper grease is fine. If you want to protect the calliper pistons then a smear of red grease or ACF50 Block grease is good. These greases will not attack the delicate calliper rubber seals. I would not use copper grease for this purpose.
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Levisp wrote:If you want to protect the caliper pistons then a smear of red grease or ACF50 Block grease is good. These greases will not attack the delicate caliper rubber seals.
Red Grease http://www.redrubbergrease.com/ or ACF-50 Corrosion Block Grease http://learchem.com/products/cb-grease.html, sound perfect for brake caliper pistons, thanks.
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I love my brakes the way they are, they are by far the best brakes I have had on numerous bikes.
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My brake maintenance regime is as follows.
Have the bike serviced when its due. This includes a brake strip and clean at my dealer.
The rest of the time. No more than a good hose down when I clean the bike and dry the discs off afterwards.
Never had any problems since 1995.  With the pistons being ceramic I wouldn't have thought they are prone to corrosion anyway.
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The BMW Brake Caliper Repair Set does include pistons & seals,
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=34_1646.

Also listed is Brake Pad Paste.
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