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Although not strictly addressing the OP's point, the following links are worth a read. My conclusion would be, as DD points out, if taking a test, check the examiner's preference, otherwise yer pays yer money and do what comes naturally.

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php/117235-Which-foot-do-you-use?highlight=Footbrake


http://www.survivalskills.clara.net/riding_skills_43.htm
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I agree really its a matter of what you feel comfortable with 2 feeet down it don't matter.

I have a nasty habit of pulling up short on bad/blind junctions, then slowly inching forward with both feet down till I can see ( when I say short I mean 2 foot short)

To me that is a confidence thing,  Ive noticed it since Ive got older but what the hell it don't matter, I ride with the same group and they are all aware and expect it, go on the side of safety and what feels right.

When loaded and filling up I always stop 6ft before the pump and slowly pull forward with both feet down. I always set off covering back brake.

Its same as I always put side stand down before I put bike on main stand, just in case wet boot slips off main stand
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Still can't work out how all this talk about what foot to put down will help Yorkieboy get round corners. 
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Perhaps Dave could post another picture
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Maz12 wrote: Perhaps Dave could post another picture


Of what?
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yorkieboy wrote:Think i need to find so rt owners and get so lessons
Lots of the Police Motorcycle Sections use RT's & here's the list of those who offer BikeSafe Workshops, http://www.bikesafe.co.uk/locate-a-force/,
a good place to start if you are looking for some help to improve your skills.

The first thing to learn is how to STOP correctly, [Tick].

i2i Motorcycle Academy http://www.i2imca.com/About.asp offer Machine Control Skills, including Cornering.
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RTman10 wrote: Still can't work out how all this talk about what foot to put down will help Yorkieboy get round corners.

This may help you.  :D


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That'll do it.


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Question
On the bikes with hill control, when it's engaged are the brake lights on, just asking
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Must be because the back brake is fully engaged. Must admit though I've not bothered to get off to check. if somebody is going to rear end the bike the difference between having the rear light on and the brake light light on isn't going to deter them I suspect.
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Thanks everyone for the replies


I have previously owned a CBF1000, which i dod my RoSPA exam on (Gold) a few years back. I bought my ZZR1400 3 years ago and from day 1 felt comfortable going around bends without the thought that im going to lose the rear wheel.


Its been a few weeks now and i realise i need to downshift and keep the revs higher and purposefully drive it through bends, however its a bugger to control at very low speeds in town. Not helped that the seat is very high and i can only get the balls of my feet on the floor.

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yorkieboy wrote:Not helped that the seat is very high and i can only get the balls of my feet on the floor.
If not already fitted, would a low seat option be any help.

The standard seat height is 820 - 840mm, the low seat is 780 - 800mm.
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Yorkieboy,    Definitely get a low seat, balls off feet no good for this type of bike/weight. 

That really knocks yer confidence cos all you are thinking about is the next stop, cambers and the like.

Secondly at slow speeds keep revs up slightly (so as not to stall) and try controlling speed with back brake application, when you see people manouvering through cones they are using the rear brake to control speed. Just remember to keep engine revs a little higher than tickover.

Its just practice really and feel the bike and the brake I would go onto Tesco car park and practice a bit off weaving BUT get that seat sorted first
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Yes definitely have the lowered seat on the list, and will practice the slow maneuvering skills as suggested.
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There is quite a difference in height depending on your pre load settings. With the engine running go from One up to Two up with luggage and you will feel the bike rise noticeable. I could never use The Two up setting as my feet left the ground .
The problem was solved with the LC as it selves adjusts the difference.
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