I am considering a used RT-P because I like the idea of a heavy duty, unique bike, I don't mind an all white or black and white bike and I would be a single rider only. I have researched the archives, but was unsuccessful in finding much information, so I thought I would pose my question to this very knowledgeable community.
What are the big differences between the 09 and 12 RT-P if any? Are they generally recommended as used bikes even with mileages between 30-60k miles? Do you have any concerns about those particular models (08-13 or so), their compatibility with future service, parts and accessories? There seem to be decent deals on them every now and then, especially on the West coast.
Thnx.
Considering a 2009 or 2012 RT-P
Re: Considering a 2009 or 2012 RT-P
r1ms12 This is my advice and a lot of people wont agree but,
I would personally stay clear of ex police bikes, there is a reason why they are cheaper, my reasons fo saying this are
They are abused just imagine a cold engine and a job comes in , that bike is redlined straight away no warm up or steady away.
It goes to the scene of a collision and is left on sidestand ticking over for 30 or so minutes.
It isn't the riders bike, if he breaks it someone will mend it, Ive seen them so hot oil is spraying out of the cylinder head
Ive seen them getting new clutches at 15000 miles and maintenance is or at least was good at police garages but same as a lot of organisations oil might not be the best, they even shop around for petrol so it probably wont be the same quality you would put in.
Don't get me wrong there will be good ones out there , the ones on escort duties down London might be a good bet but I waould sty clear of operational ones.
How can you tell? If there are black pen marks on tank that's a good indicator and generally how rough it looks bearing in mind it might be on road 350days a year
Sorry to be so negative but that what I think, If you can afford a couple of grand more go private bits aren't cheap AND theres a reason why the police are getting rid, even if they are on 3 yrs hire that 3 yrs is like 10 of nomal use or can be
I would personally stay clear of ex police bikes, there is a reason why they are cheaper, my reasons fo saying this are
They are abused just imagine a cold engine and a job comes in , that bike is redlined straight away no warm up or steady away.
It goes to the scene of a collision and is left on sidestand ticking over for 30 or so minutes.
It isn't the riders bike, if he breaks it someone will mend it, Ive seen them so hot oil is spraying out of the cylinder head
Ive seen them getting new clutches at 15000 miles and maintenance is or at least was good at police garages but same as a lot of organisations oil might not be the best, they even shop around for petrol so it probably wont be the same quality you would put in.
Don't get me wrong there will be good ones out there , the ones on escort duties down London might be a good bet but I waould sty clear of operational ones.
How can you tell? If there are black pen marks on tank that's a good indicator and generally how rough it looks bearing in mind it might be on road 350days a year
Sorry to be so negative but that what I think, If you can afford a couple of grand more go private bits aren't cheap AND theres a reason why the police are getting rid, even if they are on 3 yrs hire that 3 yrs is like 10 of nomal use or can be
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guest2360
Re: Considering a 2009 or 2012 RT-P
Step2534 is absolutely right. Don't know where you are but your reference to white might not mean ex police ad it does in UK.
Difference between the two is the engine and a bit of trim. Same power and performance.
Difference between the two is the engine and a bit of trim. Same power and performance.
Re: Considering a 2009 or 2012 RT-P
Both have dry clutches, quite honestly a pain to change compared to wethead bikes
In California some PD's do sell their bikes at 3-4 years old as they don't want the maintaince headaches of clutches, final drives and other parts that tend to wear
That said California Highway Patrol keeps theirs to 150,000 miles and has no problem selling their old bikes
If your lucky you can find a supervisors bike that was never abused
In California some PD's do sell their bikes at 3-4 years old as they don't want the maintaince headaches of clutches, final drives and other parts that tend to wear
That said California Highway Patrol keeps theirs to 150,000 miles and has no problem selling their old bikes
If your lucky you can find a supervisors bike that was never abused
Jim
Re: Considering a 2009 or 2012 RT-P
Thank you for all these insights. It is much appreciated. The bike would be a California RT, thus the white or black and white colors.
So the biggest concerns seem to be clutch, final drives and perhaps engine issues if I gathered correctly from above.
Is there an actual difference in terms of technology between an 09 and a 12? Also, what are fair market prices in USD an 09 or 12 with roughly 30k miles?
So the biggest concerns seem to be clutch, final drives and perhaps engine issues if I gathered correctly from above.
Is there an actual difference in terms of technology between an 09 and a 12? Also, what are fair market prices in USD an 09 or 12 with roughly 30k miles?
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guest2360
Re: Considering a 2009 or 2012 RT-P
The engine was uprated in 2010 But in my humble opinion is no better than the previous one. The switchgear was also changed in 2010 but definitely not for the better reliability wise. I would not get within a mile of an ex police bike no matter what model,it was. You always start with useless panniers, wrong switchgear and holes everywhere where stuff has been removed. You must be able go find privately owned ones of the same age that have much lower mileage and hundreds of fewer riders.
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