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Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:52 pm
by Casbar
richardbd wrote:
No stickers.
Carry Hi-viz vest (always) in pannier.
No bulbs.
Oh - and no breathalyser either!

So is the 135 Euro fine and points on your licence for no stickers not enforceable for non French?

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:01 pm
by David.
When I have arranged Euro trips, the way I've done it is, provide web links to hotels & ferries etc. & let everyone book there own.
Don't need to start booking a load of rooms, that's what tour operators do.

The first thing to do is decide on a destination.

It's not difficult, we have done it for the UK trip & all booked our own accommodation.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:01 pm
by richardbd
Casbar wrote:
So is the 135 Euro fine and points on your licence for no stickers not enforceable for non French?

They have to catch you first - and I have a Callisto Grey machine!


Mind you, maybe I should get some stickers when the GS arrives...

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:11 pm
by David.
RTman10 wrote:David tried to see if he could join up with the Pidcock run as an individual and found it difficult.
The only difficulty is that the hotel isn't showing any availability for the Pidcock tour dates.

I was quiet prepared to arrange a ferry & overnight accommodation (outward & return) for myself too.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:16 pm
by MacJ
An 'Ice breaker' could be a Brittany Ferries day trip to Normandy. I do one every year, usually with four bikes. Overnight from Portsmouth to St. Malo with return from Caen the next night. Sharing a cabin both ways will cost you about £65 all in. That's two nights accomodation and a full day's riding. Can't be bad.
Fix a date in the spring and let riders book their own crossing. Obviously two/four  need to get together to to book a cabin.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:22 pm
by guest2360
Stickers cost £2.99, take 5 minutes to fit and 30 seconds to remove.  You will not find a definable answer on if you have to or not.  I advise fit the stupid things.  The reason for fitting them is even madder.  Its so you can be found if your  buried in hedge in the dark.  High vis. Stick it in your pannier.







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Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:44 pm
by GuzziRick
I have organised numerous cycle (pedal) rides in Europe of between 5 and 15 days for groups around 10 but did have 33 from London to Paris. I don't do any pedalling I've just been support/first aid in the van or on my bike (motorised). Probably a bit different organising a Motorcycle trip as you wouldn't need to inform all the authorities and arrange road side pit/food stops every 2 hours, constantly going from the back to the front to make img sure everyone is ok. Really frustrating riding for 10 hours and only covering 80 miles!! The hardest thing is always the hotels and getting people to pay deposits up front but we always managed and raised a lot of money for charity along the way. I would be happy to have a look and see what I can suggest I still have lots of contacts.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:11 pm
by guest3954
richardbd wrote:
They have to catch you first - and I have a Callisto Grey machine!


Mind you, maybe I should get some stickers when the GS arrives...

Special Green Lane Stickers?

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:26 pm
by guest2360
MacJ.  £65 all in ferry price.  Could you break that down please.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:40 pm
by Sullivj
I always put the stickers on.


A friend at work got fined you for each item they should have had, and didn't.

I figure that the lack of stickers is probably a good indication to the French police that you're less likely to have the rest of the 'essentials'.

So I go the whole nine yards and take everything, including TWO breathalysers.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:55 pm
by Casbar
Sullivj wrote: I always put the stickers on.


A friend at work got fined you for each item they should have had, and didn't.

I figure that the lack of stickers is probably a good indication to the French police that you're less likely to have the rest of the 'essentials'.

So I go the whole nine yards and take everything, including TWO breathalysers.

So is that spare bulb set and what about a warning triangle, one site said not for bikes another said you needed one

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:55 pm
by richardbd
Sullivj wrote: I always put the stickers on.


A friend at work got fined you for each item they should have had, and didn't.

I figure that the lack of stickers is probably a good indication to the French police that you're less likely to have the rest of the 'essentials'.

So I go the whole nine yards and take everything, including TWO breathalysers.

Maybe your friend should have done a bit of homework.  There's a whole bunch of nonsense talked about this stuff.


Check the latest AA site and also a recent answer from the EU commission to an MEP who asked the sticker question:


http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/driving-abroad-whats-new-2012.html


Reflective Motorcycle Helmet Stickers: from the 1st January 2016: The EU commision response to MEP helmet sticker question. Regulation No 22 leaves the mandating of conspicuity marks to the discretion of individual Contracting Parties, allowing them to prohibit the use of helmets not meeting the conspicuity requirements. However, it is the Commission’s understanding that the obligation contained in the French legislation cannot apply retroactively to helmets already in use. As a consequence, foreign motorcycle riders carrying a helmet not containing these reflective markings cannot be obliged to bring their helmets in conformity retroactively. Only new helmet types placed on the French market must comply with the new requirements and bear this reflective material. But it is up-yo you?[/color][/font]

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:02 pm
by David.
When looking at heading to Bad Herrenalb, I was going to avoid riding through France.

Don't forget the tolls.

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:14 pm
by guest2360
My route from Calais give option of Tolls and No Tolls.  I tend to go through France going but miss most of it coming home. 

Re: RT Forum meet in Europe 2017

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:25 pm
by guest2360



Reflective Motorcycle Helmet Stickers: from the 1st January 2016: The EU commision response to MEP helmet sticker question. Regulation No 22 leaves the mandating of conspicuity marks to the discretion of individual Contracting Parties, allowing them to prohibit the use of helmets not meeting the conspicuity requirements. However, it is the Commission’s understanding that the obligation contained in the French legislation cannot apply retroactively to helmets already in use. As a consequence, foreign motorcycle riders carrying a helmet not containing these reflective markings cannot be obliged to bring their helmets in conformity retroactively. Only new helmet types placed on the French market must comply with the new requirements and bear this reflective material. But it is up-yo you?[/color][/font]


Try explaining that to a stroppy French copper.  Think I'll stick with the £2.99'option.
And the AA are still saying they must be fitted so they haven't read the above.