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Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:54 pm
by Maz12
I thank my dealers,  Alan Jefferies for pushing my case and sorting it quickly and painlessly (especially Dan in the service dept). And anyone else who knows me.  :)

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:57 am
by Steve F
Maz12 wrote: Took the bike to the dealers again on Saturday,  got a phone call from them today
BMW have agreed to a new engine, Swingarm, Driveshaft..  Excellent news
Good, glad to hear of the positive outcome for you! :)

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:59 pm
by Maz12
One thing has sprung to mind (apart from having to pay for a 600mile service again  ;) )
What happens with the log book..  As the 3rd service will show a lower mileage than the 2nd service,  minor details I guess

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:04 pm
by Paggers
Mileage is recorded on the bike, not the engine. So the tachometer will just keep on counting up, irrespective of the engine change.

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:13 pm
by David.
Maz12 wrote:What happens with the log book.
The V5C should be updated with the new engine no., https://www.gov.uk/change-vehicle-detai ... -to-update

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:45 pm
by Maz12
Ta

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:10 pm
by Maz12
All the stuff has arrived,  so taking my bike in on Saturday and picking up a loaner
Looking at weather forecast recon a GS will be needed

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:06 pm
by mcbrid

Aluminium is notoriously prone to 'gassing' which has the effect of lifting any paint that is on top of the porous area of the casting.


It is likely that this is what you are seeing and as such is a 'manufacturing' fault but good luck arguing it.


Applying ACF50 or anything similar will have little impact on the problem as it is coming from under the paint


IMHO of course


:-[




Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:39 pm
by guest2360
That could very well be one of the answers, but not totally.  The pics posted by Max 12 shows corrosion on the rocker box.  They are magnesium.

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:55 pm
by Steve F
Doesn't magnesium alloy have the same trait in this respect as aluminium alloy, ie degassing when being cast and porosity problems thereafter? Who on earth manufactures these castings for BMW if this is possibly the cause?? Our Asian friends with naff quality control per chance? Rant over! ;)

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:04 pm
by richardbd
Steve F wrote: Doesn't magnesium alloy have the same trait in this respect as aluminium alloy, ie degassing when being cast and porosity problems thereafter? Who on earth manufactures these castings for BMW if this is possibly the cause?? Our Asian friends with naff quality control per chance? Rant over! ;)

Maybe that's why early 1200 Multistradas had porous cylinder heads - which puts a bit of blistering paint into context!

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:40 pm
by mcbrid
Steve F wrote: Doesn't magnesium alloy have the same trait in this respect as aluminium alloy, ie degassing when being cast and porosity problems thereafter? Who on earth manufactures these castings for BMW if this is possibly the cause?? Our Asian friends with naff quality control per chance? Rant over! ;)

Exactly the same - there is a vacuum impregnation process which would get rid of the problem but that would add cost




Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:41 am
by guest2360
There is some difference.  Corrodion to rocker boxes is very rare and nearly unheard of.  They have been magnesium since 2005 if not earlier.

Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:03 am
by futterweasel
RTman10 wrote: There is some difference.  Corrodion to rocker boxes is very rare and nearly unheard of.  They have been magnesium since 2005.

Iv'e seen plenty of rocker box covers with blisters on them, as we are paying a premium price you would think BMW would use the best manufacturing processes as standard and quality stainless fasteners.




Re: Should I be worried about this?

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:11 am
by Levisp
futterweasel wrote:
Iv'e seen plenty of rocker box covers with blisters on them, as we are paying a premium price you would think BMW would use the best manufacturing processes as standard and quality stainless fasteners.

Any manufacturer could make corrosion proof bikes but they don't because they want us to keep buying new bikes every 2 - 3 years. Not me.