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Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:01 am
by Richardmurphy
hi all, went for a short run recently on my 11 r1200rt and noticed that the heated grips were stuck in the on position (one dot). The switch is having no effect digital readout is showing one dot and will not change.  The Grips are heating to stage one level.  All the other switches are working. I have tried disconnecting the battery but this made no difference.

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:09 am
by blokeonthemove
Since your bike is out of warranty and switches are expensive I would get some switch spray and apply it to  the gaps around the switch then work it in by switching on/off high/low to attempt to clean the contacts
and maybe displace any moisture within. I always wrap mine in cling film prior to washing the bike.

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:22 pm
by Steve F
Now I'm curious.....what do you do about switchgear protection when riding in the rain, or if the bike is outside in the rain....???😉🤔

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:36 pm
by guest2360
Not necessarily rain as it's had 6 years on the road without doing it. 

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:00 pm
by Richardmurphy
I'll try the spray and see if that helps, I was wondering if it could be a relay switch stuck on or is there a relay on that circuit? The  bike has only 9000 miles on it and I am generally very careful when washing it.  The switch is stuck on and will not change to the second setting or to off when pressed.  It comes on with the ignition.  Any ideas, has anyone come across this problem before?

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:21 am
by guest2360
Think the actual switch has broken, nothing to do with the electrics.  Your only option if the spray doesn't free it is a new one.

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:06 am
by Richardmurphy
My original post may have been misleading.  The switch seems to function ok, ie it will click on and off, or on, on, off as it should be. I can hear it, but it has no effect on led readout or the grips.  They continue to heat up to stage 1 and will not go to stage 2 or turn off despite pressing the switch.  I must emphasise that the switch seems to function mechanically but not electronically if that makes sense. That's the reason why I'm wondering about a relay ring stuck etc.  I don't even know if the circuit has a relay or its location.  Any help appreciated

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:17 am
by guest2360
Understood.  Might still be a broken switch though.

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:52 am
by Paggers
From your original description it does sound more like a defective switch than a relay or similar. A bit of basic logical fault diagnosis:

The switch talks to the OBC which then controls the heated grips. If the fault was between the OBC and the grips (faulty relay for example) then when you manipulate the switch settings the display would change indicating that the OBC had received that input. The fact that the OBC display is not changing means that the fault is somewhere between the switch and the OBC. Simple (and most likely) cause is a faulty switch. Possible other scenarios are damaged wiring (can't see that being likely unless you take the bike apart a lot) or a failure of the OBC itself.

Take the switch out and use a multi-meter (or similar) to check the contacts and see if you detect a change in state when you manipulate the switch.

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:30 am
by Richardmurphy
Many thanks Paggers and to all who replied.  I going to strip the switch today and do as you advise.

Re: Heated grips stuck on in position 1

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:41 pm
by blokeonthemove
Riding in the rain? Me? I don't think so. Really I think I do more miles in Spain than in the UK. I wash the bike with a pressure washer but not close up and I avoid certain bits like switchgear and wheel bearings.