BMW R1200RT/R1250RT Forum

For some folks, (myself included),  this time of year is when their bikes are coming out of hibernation & perhaps riders are at their most vulnerable.

With this in mind, have found this McAMS website link to "Common Motorbike Accident Scenarios", http://www.mc-ams.co.uk/blog/common-mot ... scenarios/

Best to ride all year round then   

Thats more sitting the obvious There was nothing stunning there, all common sense.

Casbar wrote: Thats more sitting the obvious There was nothing stunning there, all common sense.

Common sense?? Everybody is driving on the wrong side of the road!!! :alas:

Casbar wrote: Thats more stating the obvious There was nothing stunning there, all common sense.

The one indisputable fact about common sense is - it's not very common !


We will reduce our chances of being involved in incidents like those portrayed if we take responsibility rather than blame the "dosy" driver. We have to expect drivers to pull out on us and take action to avoid the consequences. We have to expect the car at the front of the slow line of traffic to turn right ( in Uk, left everywhere else) and don't go overtaking at warp speed etc,etc.......
I've had some close calls in these scenarios and I know it would have been better to anticipate and take positive action to avoid them than trust to luck and someone else's actions to avoid injury and bike damage.
The police may attribute blame to someone else, but I don't think I would count lying in a hospital bed looking at photos of my wrecked bike as a success.....

If avoiding these accident scenarios is "common sense", why do they occur.

Any riders who volunteer for the likes of NEGGB, http://www.neggb.org.uk/, require to be trained to IAM, RoSPA or a similar qualification, they don't just rely on "common sense".

So are we assuming then that anyone involved in any of the scenarios highlighted in the OP's link is lacking in common sense?  :whistle:

Some motorcycle courier services also require their riders to hold an advanced qualification, together with an annual assessment ride.

Look, its obviously Monday antagonism day. All I'm saying the majority of the scenarios if your careful you wouldn't do. Who would overtake a car turning left at a junction? I hold IAM and RoSPA and am re-doing my test next month for RoSPA. We in our blood bike group, also require any IAM members to be be re-assessed every 3 years, which is effectively another test with a Police instructor.


So ok, its not common sense, its not being aware of the surroundings. Even Police riders have accidents, so it doesn't matter how highly trained you are, you can still have an off day. I know, I had one on Friday

Sometimes we just get unlucky.

simbo wrote: Sometimes we just get unlucky.

Agree with that...... wrong place wrong time.

There is however, IMHO, a world of difference between studying and training to gain proficiency in an acquired skill set (of any discipline),and the possession of common sense. In fact, they can be mutually exclusive as my experience, gained over 30 years as an employer, has taught me.

Hopefully these comments which are merely expressing my opinion, will not have any other connotations placed upon them and are in no way meant to be confrontational.
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I believe the term is Collision,  not Accident
or so i was told on a course,  RTA is out the window and RTC is the latest

Maz12 wrote: I believe the term is Collision,  not Accident
or so i was told on a course,  RTA is out the window and RTC is the latest

Glad we cleared that up then, even very highly trained and experienced motorcyclists have - Collisions, Accidents, RTC or whatever, end result is still the same, you hit something and normally fall off.

Maz12 wrote: I believe the term is Collision,  not Accident
or so i was told on a course,  RTA is out the window and RTC is the latest

Does this only apply to 'road going' incidents?.. Just wondering because my Mum once said I was an 'accident'.. I'm kinda wondering if I might actually be a 'collision' now?   

Whatever it is, it's still an RT accident or collision.