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Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:30 am
by David.
Looking to enhance the appearance of the F&R brake callipers on my 2012 TC RT. Chris Shaw Engineering, https://www.shawstainless.co.uk/ manufacture and supply stainless steel fasteners for BMW motorcycles. Has anyone had any experience of their products and/or can recommend other suppliers.

The products I'm interested in are F&R brake calliper pins. From the CSE website, have identified these two items.

FRONT CALIPER PAD PIN, https://www.shawstainless.co.uk/product.php/6059137/
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REAR BRAKE CALIPER PAD PIN, https://www.shawstainless.co.uk/product.php/6511391/
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I'd contact CSE prior to making any potential purchase, meanwhile, any feedback would be most welcome, thanks.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:38 pm
by Reaper999
I've had caliper pins and some replacement fairing screws from them and personally I thought they where all pretty good quality.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:59 pm
by simbo
Don't Stainless and Aluminium react with each other? Or is that just an old wives tale?.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:57 pm
by David.
For reference purposes, thought I'd add these photos to the thread.

Front calliper
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Rear calliper
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Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:08 pm
by David.
Motorworks also do a front s/s brake pad pin, https://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop ... 5_35_HA_30

Looking at their photo, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as the Shawstainless one.

Motorworks
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Shawstainless
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Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:32 am
by Rhun
I changed my front and rear calipers to stainless bolts and pins from shawstainless around 15,000 miles ago. I've ridden in all weathers and they still look as good as new whereas the bmw ones corroded easily. I would highly recommend them, also the guy who sells them is very helpful and knowledgeable.

Don't forget copper grease on the threads.

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Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:43 pm
by David.
Rhun wrote:I changed my front and rear calipers to stainless bolts and pins from Shawstainless.
Looking at your posts, would these have been for a 2010 TC RT. If so, please can you help to identity which are the correct F&R pins for my 2012 TC RT.
From Shawstainless website, the photo of the rear pin doesn't show the split steel slotted retaining spring as per OEM pin.

Shawstainless
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OEM Rear pin
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OEM Front pin
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Also, do the OEM front wire & rear R clips fit the Shawstainless pins, thanks.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:17 pm
by milleplod
I used them previously on my 1200ST, and now on the RT. The R-clips fit as per the originals. You have to remove the spring collar from the rear one and swap it to the stainless one. There's (just!) enough spring in it to allow removal using a flat-bladed screwdriver or similar in the slot - once on the new pin, I just nipped it up a bit with pliers.
Pete

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:26 pm
by Rhun
David. wrote: Looking at your posts, would these have been for a 2010 TC RT. If so, please can you help to identity which are the correct F&R pins for my 2012 TC RT.
From Shawstainless website, the photo of the rear pin doesn't show the split steel slotted retaining spring as per OEM pin.

Shawstainless
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OEM Rear pin
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OEM Front pin
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Also, do the OEM front wire & rear R clips fit the Shawstainless pins, thanks.
Hi,

They're the same pins as used accross the board for all the evo type bmw calipers.

I use the ones attached and haven't had any problems. If you're not sure you can email the guy who supplies them, he's super knowledgeable and helpful. ImageImage

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Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:50 pm
by David.
Thanks both for your replies. Removing the spring collar from the OEM rear pin & fitting it to the new s/s pin sounds like a challenge!

With your help, looks like these are the pins required for a 2012 RT.

Rear, https://www.shawstainless.co.uk/product.php/6511391/
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Front, https://www.shawstainless.co.uk/product.php/6059137/
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To confirm, will email CSE prior to placing an order.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:16 pm
by leonjennings
simbo wrote: Don't Stainless and Aluminium react with each other? Or is that just an old wives tale?.

Fact, Aluminium and steel placed together will react. They will probably fail at some point but that is not a fact more an opinion. The problem is they may well corrode from the inside out so you may not see anything wrong until too late. the answer in the engineering industry and other arenas is to use a special blocking gel such as Duralac (others are available) which prevents the galvanic action.


Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:05 pm
by David.
Here's an example of a grubby brake calliper.

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The OEM pin is probably galvanised steel and looks corroded. The retaining wire clip & pad spring are just dirty. Had mine apart for cleaning today, the pins were corroded & required an abrasive to clean up. The wire clip & pad spring cleaned up with a cloth and are like brand new, probably made of s/s. New s/s pins won't corrode either. The pins will be removed at least once per year as part of my maintenance regime.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:31 pm
by milleplod
I had the stainless pins on my 1200ST's front and rear calipers for 6 years or more. Nothing on them after all that time other than the usual road muck mixed with brake pad dust - easily removed at the annual home-service and, of course, they come up all shiny and new-looking, unlike the OE ones.

It's not really a challenge to remove the collar - it just levers off with a screwdriver blade.


Pete

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:24 pm
by David.
milleplod wrote:I had the stainless pins on my 1200ST's front and rear calipers for 6 years or more.
Assuming they were the same as those on an RT, did you ever have any problems unscrewing the pad pin on the front calliper or driving out the pad pin on the rear calliper.

Was there any evidence of corrosion between the s/s pins where they were in contact with the alloy callipers.

Re: Stainless Steel Caliper Pins

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:32 pm
by milleplod
They're exactly the same - no, no problems at all, I used a tiny bit of Ceratec grease on the threads. There's never been a hint of any reaction between the pins and the calipers.
Pete