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4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:24 pm
by davef1uk
Anyone other than me get these stupid 4 wheel knobs close the door on you when filtering???


I wish I had a led light which flashed * knob sack *   


Had one today AGAIN move over as I was coming to lights, then thought he was A police interceptor as he spun off at mark 3. Lmao. 


Don’t they realise we are gone before they change into 2nd gear.  Numptys

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:09 am
by PeteM
Davef1uk wrote: Anyone other than me get these stupid 4 wheel knobs close the door on you when filtering???

I had a car try to block me once on the M6 when everything was at a virtual standstill due to a crash. The police car he moved closer to to achieve this pointed out to him that what I was doing was perfectly legal but he was causing an obstruction which was not.  :))


And for any American's reading: Filtering = Lane splitting

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:33 am
by jackronner
I've been white-lining it (filtering) in California since '72, and reluctantly have to report that over 70% of drivers who actively and intentionally put me in danger are women.  And I mean really dangerous behavior, carried out repeatedly and often over protracted periods.  I tell them that when they click on their seat-belts, it isn't really a 3500 lb. strap-on to impose their power on a (still) preponderantly male mode of transport.  I do add that they'll try this on the wrong dude one day, and they won't be safe in their cocoon.  Perhaps it's not road rage, but road rag?  Interested to see if this phenomenon holds true in other countries, as well.  Let me know.

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:52 am
by B787MECH
Over the many years I've been riding I've seen every kind of idiot behaviour from car drivers while bikes have been filtering. The common one is drivers closing the gap when they see you coming but I've also seen drivers throw things out the window as you pass, including lighted cigarettes, and opening the door is common too. This unfortunately happened to a colleague which resulted in fatal injuries. It was impossible to prove in court that it was done on purpose. Be careful out there!


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Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 10:21 am
by Beagle

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 11:12 am
by Brian Mac
you could always use one of these to cull the bad drivers every now and then[attach=1]

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 2:54 pm
by timminator
PeteM wrote: And for any American's reading: Filtering = Lane splitting

Thanks for the man-splaining that one!  Now if I only knew what a "knob sack" was?  :alas:

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 3:47 pm
by Sprintgull
B787MECH wrote: Over the many years I've been riding I've seen every kind of idiot behaviour from car drivers while bikes have been filtering. The common one is drivers closing the gap when they see you coming but I've also seen drivers throw things out the window as you pass, including lighted cigarettes, ….

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Pleased to say [size=16px][align=left]I got revenge on one of our fag-throwing friends a few years ago.  The lighted butt landed in my lap as I crept up  between the lanes to a roundabout.  As I stopped to grab it he moved, so I chucked it back from whence it came.  He started doing some strange dance as he receded in my mirror getting honked by the string of cars behind him.[/size][/align]

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 6:51 am
by B787MECH
Sprintgull wrote:
Pleased to say [size=16px][align=left]I got revenge on one of our fag-throwing friends a few years ago.  The lighted butt landed in my lap as I crept up  between the lanes to a roundabout.  As I stopped to grab it he moved, so I chucked it back from whence it came.  He started doing some strange dance as he receded in my mirror getting honked by the string of cars behind him.[/size][/align]
Excellent! Serves the bastard right [emoji106]


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Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:51 am
by davef1uk
Haha.  Love the replies.  The cigarette one is funny, hope it burns deep. 


I actually had one driver shout verbal abuse instructing me to que like everyone else. 


I kindly replied “ why, when I can do this “ ( rode off filtering with a one finger salute )


I have been looking for stickers for my work van, with words “ let the bloody bike pass “ or to some effect lol

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 9:27 am
by PeteM
Davef1uk wrote: I actually had one driver shout verbal abuse instructing me to que like everyone else. 

So he wants you to make the queue worse by adding vehicles to it?

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 4:30 pm
by davef1uk
PeteM wrote:
So he wants you to make the queue worse by adding vehicles to it?

Yup, knob sack he is. 

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:39 am
by jackronner
During the day, I make it a practice to put my high-beams on, and move from side to side a little to "paint" the area ahead so that drivers are more aware that I'm coming.  I also noted in France an odd behavior, 'til I realized what it was:  as a way of saying "Thanks" to a driver who pulls over to give you room, they'd extend their leg for a moment instead of a wave of appreciation.  To me, it looked at first like they were lifting a leg towards them like an ungrateful twit until I eventually tumbled to their intent;  and also realized that it's much safer than taking your hand off the bars to wave.  Is this common in Britain, too?  I'm trying it out in California and I just hope that they don't think I'm "taking the (or 'a') piss"!  I'd suggest that the practice be suggested in driving manuals to foster better relations.  Can't stress how important how responsible (quiet and slow) lane-splitting is, in that it creates some good-will among drivers, and takes the sting out of their natural envy as they sit mired in traffic.  I hate those twits who speed insanely thru stopped traffic at high revs on loud bikes.  They encourage bad behavior by drivers directed towards the rest of us.

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 7:15 am
by PeteM
jackronner wrote: .Is this common in Britain, too?

No it isn't. It is all to do with the side of the road you drive on. In France a driver you have just overtaken is most likely on your right so you ideally want to thank them with something on the right so it is easier to see. If you did it with the hand it would mean releasing the throttle which would disrupt progress. In the UK the car is likely on the left so it is easy to wave or give a thumbs up with the clutch hand.


Situation is reversed for saying hello to a follow biker coming the other way, in France they use their hand but in the UK it is a nod of the head.

Re: 4 wheel drivers when filtering.

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:59 am
by gogs01
jackronner wrote: ..... 
Can't stress how important how responsible (quiet and slow) lane-splitting is, in that it creates some good-will among drivers, and takes the sting out of their natural envy as they sit mired in traffic.  I hate those twits who speed insanely thru stopped traffic at high revs on loud bikes.  They encourage bad behavior by drivers directed towards the rest of us.

This is my take on filtering too - I try not to get annoyed with, or react to, thoughtless or awkward behaviour on the part of drivers, and try to acknowledge the ones who make things easier for me.


Gesticulating, "rev-bombing" or, worse still, knocking mirrors off, only leads to drivers taking out their spite on the next bike rider they come across.  And there's only ever going to be one winner in a clash between a two ton SUV and a motorcycle.