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Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:19 am
by Rick B
Morning all
I recently did an oil change on my 16 RT (17.5k) I used genuine BMW filter but due to the extortionate price of the Advantage oil i opted for the mainly second best option of Castrol Edge Titanium 5/40,Now for some reason changing gear mainly 1-2-2-3 has become a bit agricultural.I know most will say that i should have gone for the OEM but i had a voucher for Halfords so it seemed like a no brainier.
So i was wondering if i need to drop the oil and empty my wallet for the Advantage or is there some other alternative
Thanks
Rick

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:15 am
by David.
From the Rider's Manual, the oil spec. is SAE 5W-40, API SL / JASO MA2, let the search begin.

Westway Motorcycle Oil Fully Synthetic 4 Stroke JASO MA2 5W-40 API SL 5L, £22.99, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122458571634

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:18 am
by exportman
Hi  I think that  Castrol Edge Titanium 5/40  is a car diesel engine oil?  In which case it will have additives that may cause your clutch plates to stick together.
If you are using the clutch to change and also when stationary engaging a gear would be more difficult.

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:31 am
by David.
exportman wrote:I think that Castrol Edge Titanium 5/40 is a car diesel engine oil?
It certainly is, not MA-Approved for use with wet clutches.

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:12 am
by exportman
David. wrote: It certainly is, not MA-Approved for use with wet clutches.

Damage may already have been done then  If its soaked into the clutch then it may never recover without being taken apart and cleaned.
If you are lucky  dropping the oil and refilling with motorcycle specific oil and a new oil filter may make it better.

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:00 pm
by Levisp
The only BMW where car oil is OK are the dry clutch models. Hopefully if the oil hasn't been in there too long then maybe a change with filter will rescue the situation. Here is a company where you can get the original Castrol oil that was OEM before BMW changed to Shell.


https://www.broughtonlubricants.co.uk/c ... g-4t-5w-40

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:07 pm
by David.
Levisp wrote:Hopefully if the oil hasn't been in there too long then maybe a change with filter will rescue the situation.
Liqui Moly Engine Flush is suitable for use on motorbikes with wet clutches, https://products.liqui-moly.com/motorbi ... ush-3.html

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:40 pm
by David.
The BMW oil filter part no. is 11427721779, this is cross-referenced with Hiflo HF160 & Mahle OC619. Both these filters are of equivalent spec. to OEM at a fraction of the cost.

Re: Clunky Gear change,

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:30 pm
by Rick B
Thanks folks
The oils been in about 2 weeks with about 100 mlie of riding ,I'll drop it this afternoon then hopefully get the right stuff from Motorworks over the hill in Holmfirth, and crossed fingers that nothing too drastic has happened :wonder: