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Clutch issue

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:55 pm
by chrismckay
Hello Guys,


Was out on bike today and there was an intermittent problem with the clutch lever, a couple of times it kinda stuck whilst pulled back against the handlebar, the lever was totally slack to move away from handlebar, then it returned to normal operation and worked no problems.


After returning home I went to have a closer look at it and it was playing up again, its like the piston in the master cylinder is sticking, there was also an audible click every time the lever was released, the lever can now travel to the bar and only the last 5mm of travel has any resistance, the lever is totally slack moving away from the bar.


What do you reckon, anybody got any ideas?...it looks like there is no re-build kit for the clutch master cylinder so the whole shooting match needs purchased including lever and reservoir!!!!... part number [size=2px]32728532546[/size]
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Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:23 pm
by simbo
chrismckay wrote: Hello Guys,


Was out on bike today and there was an intermittent problem with the clutch lever, a couple of times it kinda stuck whilst pulled back against the handlebar, the lever was totally slack to move away from handlebar, then it returned to normal operation and worked no problems.


After returning home I went to have a closer look at it and it was playing up again, its like the piston in the master cylinder is sticking, there was also an audible click every time the lever was released, the lever can now travel to the bar and only the last 5mm of travel has any resistance, the lever is totally slack moving away from the bar.


What do you reckon, anybody got any ideas?...it looks like there is no re-build kit for the clutch master cylinder so the whole shooting match needs purchased including lever and reservoir!!!!... part number 32728532546[/size]

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Chris... [/size] :)

I had a very similar problem with a car many years ago, it was the seal on the piston allowing fluid behind it preventing the piston returning to its natural position.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:45 pm
by gary45
What year is the bike? Have you lubricated lever pivot pin? The only bad experience I have had was on my K100, the barrel of the master cylinder is open to the air, water and dirt, was dirty and corroded causing resistance to piston free movement, it was not leaking. At the time was able to get a new piston with seal from Beemer Boneyard but getting the original out past the crude was extremely difficult, was able to clean up and install new piston, it was fine after repair.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:00 am
by chrismckay
Thanks for the replies Guys,


The bike is a 2012 model.



Strangely enough the lever is now functioning as it should!!!!....I was playing about with the lever working it in and out when all of a sudden the resistance came back and it is fully functioning.


I presume, even though there is no rebuild kit, that the master cylinder can be stripped down???... it isn't a sealed unit is it?


Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:10 am
by David.
chrismckay wrote:Was out on bike today and there was an intermittent problem with the clutch lever.
Has he bike been laid up for a while.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:17 am
by chrismckay
David. wrote: Has he bike been laid up for a while.

First ride of the year....so 4 months in the garage.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:31 am
by David.
chrismckay wrote:First ride of the year, so 4 months in the garage.
Oh dear, sounds like a dose of stiction due to lack of use. Won't be long before the "ride all year" comment comes!

Mine has probably seized up solid by now, although occasionally, I do manipulate the clutch lever.

Fortunately, under an Insured Warranty, failure of the following clutch parts is covered. Master cylinder, slave cylinder, clutch plate, plate housing cover & thrust bearing.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:08 pm
by Beagle
chrismckay wrote:
First ride of the year....so 4 months in the garage.

Always think its worth putting a cheap or second hand dehumidifier in the garage coupled with a moisture meter (cheap on net). The air moisture level in mine is kept 55 to 60%. You do need to try and draught proof as much as possible. With all my tools, bike, mower, hedge trimmer, chainsaw and umpteen other bits and pieces, its worth the cost to keep rust at bay.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:43 pm
by David.
Some folks question why I have my bike treated with ACF-50 prior to storing it in the garage for winter.

Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:57 pm
by Beagle
I built this many years ago (some one else has it still on the road). So it prompted the garage moisture level query.



Re: Clutch issue

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:23 pm
by michaelc2710
David. wrote: Oh dear, sounds like a dose of stiction due to lack of use. Won't be long before the "ride all year" comment comes!

Mine has probably seized up solid by now, although occasionally, I do manipulate the clutch lever.

Fortunately, under an Insured Warranty, failure of the following clutch parts is covered. Master cylinder, slave cylinder, clutch plate, plate housing cover & thrust bearing.

Should ride it all year round........ ;) [size=78%]besides no point having it stored away for months, for your first ride to be to a dealer for warranty work [/size]