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Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:51 pm
by Our Gee
The official line seems to be that the Clutch Slave Cylinder is not re-buildable. Does anyone know if re-build kits (seals etc) are available from a source other than BMW.
Thanks

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:21 pm
by David.
The clutch slave cylinders are made by Magura might be worth trying to contact them.

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Beemer Boneyard have found a European supplier of clutch slave cylinders. I wonder if BB could be a potential source of a rebuild kit.
https://www.beemerboneyard.com/clslcy1.html

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:35 pm
by David.
How about this repair kit, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264957474596

NBR is Nitrile rubber.

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:57 am
by Our Gee
Super quick reply from Magura this morning.



"Unfortunately we are unable to supply you with spare parts. BMW paid for the tooling and have trade marked most of the parts. Only your BMW Dealer can help with spare parts".


Just noticed David's link to the after market supplier above, well done David.




Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:01 am
by David.
Interesting reply from Magura, Beemer Boneyard have this quote posted on their website, https://www.beemerboneyard.com/macyreki.html

"DUE TO THE RECENT LAWSUIT BROUGHT BY BMW AGAINST MAGURA, ONCE OUR CURRENT STOCK OF MAGURA PRODUCTS IS GONE WE WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO SELL ANY BMW SPECIFIC MAGURA PRODUCTS."

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:01 pm
by David.
David. wrote:Beemer Boneyard have found a European supplier of clutch slave cylinders.
Beemer Boneyard source their clutch slave cylinders from Motorworks in the UK, they are £115.20, https://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop ... 0&spPage=1

The same unit is £144.11 from BMW, https://www.online-parts.co.uk/bmw-bike ... nth=04#sub

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:41 pm
by David.
Found this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2jk4zEehdg might be worth keeping for future reference.

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The slave cylinder U-ring referred to in the video is 18 x 24 x 4R (CFW N18-15).

Sometimes the seals are known as U-seal or Cup seal.

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:29 pm
by David.
2011 Camhead clutch master cylinder dismantled.
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Close up of piston & seals.
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Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:08 pm
by David.
More evidence from UKGSER that the KTM piston seals will fit the BMW piston, https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthrea ... r+cylinder

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Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:26 pm
by David.
Venhill do this kit made by Magura, https://www.venhill.co.uk/controls-amp- ... 22110.html

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It has not yet been confirmed if the piston seals will fit a BMW piston.

Have emailed Magura.

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:35 am
by David.
Magura have confirmed the following, "When the clutch system on a KTM bike works with Mineral oil, then the piston kit 0722110 should be the same as the KTM one."

My interpretation of this is that the Magura seals from the Venhill kit (0722110) for £37.75, https://www.venhill.co.uk/controls-amp- ... 22110.html will fit the BMW, as do the seals from the KTM kit (61002032000) for £58.38, https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/61002032000

A potential saving of £20 when it's only the seals required.

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:40 am
by Sullivj
Great research David.  I might need it one day.  Thanks.

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:37 am
by David.
I sent this to Magura, "This would confirm that the seals in the Magura piston kit 0722110 (available from Venhill in the UK) are the same as those in the KTM kit 61002032000 when the clutch fluid is mineral oil."

Their reply was, "Yes, I can confirm".

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:44 am
by David.
Have made an enquiry with Lancashire Seals, https://www.lancashireseals.co.uk/ to see if they can source and supply a clutch slave cylinder seal for less than the one on ebay for £20, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264957474596

Re: Clutch Slave Cylinder (Twincam)

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:52 pm
by David.
Having never fully understood how a master cylinder works, "Google" found this on ST-Riders, http://www.st-riders.net/viewtopic.php?t=1

It mentions brakes but I believe the same applies to clutches.