Bike sometimes not starting

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Douglas wrote:I will go to the dealers tomorrow and test ride the bike b4 I splash out the 143 euros they are asking me for the battery they have installed.
After fully charging the non-OE battery, get the dealers to load test it and provide results to prove whether or not it's knackered.

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Hi David,


Got the bike back from the dealers. Did a test run on the bike and rode it for about 30min. I stopped the bike at several points of the ride :eek:  to see if it would restart and it did. Took the bike back to the dealers and had to pay the 143euros that they charged me for installing a new OE battery. At least the bike works fine (For now) and the battery has a one year warranty so if something goes wrong during that period, it's covered. I also took the non OE battery back and was given a full refund (Nice chaps).


I am still buggered ,though, by how the non OE battery performed. I have used those batteries before in my other bikes (including other BMW's) and they have always worked well.
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Douglas wrote:The battery has a one year warranty so if something goes wrong during that period, it's covered.
The battery may indeed have a two year warranty, BMW Battery AGM - R1200RT - R1250RT - K1600Bagger - K1600GTL - K1600GT (europe-moto.com)
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Douglas wrote:I took the non-OE battery back and was given a full refund.
Out of interest, who was the manufacturer of the non-OE battery.
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Hi David, the non OE battery I used was a Platinum make. Never had any problems with that make of batteries before, even used it on my S1000RR with no problems.


Dealer told me the new OE battery had a 1year warranty not two. Hmmm, have to check that. Can anybody reading this post and who lives in the EU verify that?
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Douglas wrote:The non OE battery I used was a Platinum make.
As also used by a.n.other Camhead owner, (not me).

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Douglas wrote:Dealer told me the new OE battery had a 1 year warranty not two. Can anybody reading this post and who lives in the EU verify that.
Before Brexit, I purchased a new battery from a BMW dealer within the UK, it came with a 2 year warranty. I seem to remember it was detailed on the invoice.

This EU website sells genuine BMW parts, the batteries come with a 2 year warranty, Original BMW Motorcycle Battery - BMW Motorrad (europe-moto.com)

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You got the battery right. I will look into this battery warranty. It seems as if the dealer is not aware of the 2yr warranty.


Thanks for your comments
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Battery warranty on BMW bikes and cars is only 12 months, albeit the vehicle itself is covered for 3 years.

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Just incase your battery part number ends in 225 there is a puma (bmw memo) that the battery is from a bad batch and requires changing for part number ending 224.
You can drop test them and they will be fine and start the bike fine but WILL fail prematurely.


pop the cover off and you can see the number on the side of the battery.

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The R1250RT OEM battery part no. is 61218531121
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Unless it's only on the 1250's the number on the battery will end 225 or 224 in big white numerals.
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michaelc2710 wrote: Unless it's only on the 1250's the number on the battery will end 225 or 224 in big white numerals.

Mine ends in 224 on my GS.
The GS 'is' the better bike :-)
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That's because no dealer wants to see an ugly GS after they have sold it......
Have you thought about getting a charger for it as I think there's something on the forum about chargersbe
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Hi all



I had a very similar problem with my 2019 RT 1250.  I did a 55 mile ride to drop off a PCR covid test kit at a collection point on the M5.
When I returned to the bike, the battery would not turn the engine over.  I tried a few times, without success.
In despair, I phoned a recovery service, and waited over 2 hours.  As they had not turned up, I tried to start the bike, which miraculously burst into life!


When I got home, I checked the voltage readings via the voltage screen on the bike, and with a multimeter.  Results as below.


Voltage - no load, but ignition on. Bike readout 12.4 volts.  Meter reading (battery disconnected) 12.89 volts.
Voltage - engine running - 14.4 volts.


As the 3 year warranty runs out in April 2022, if there is a fault, I would like to get it corrected before the warranty expires.


Any ideas why the battery should not be capable of turning over the engine?  The bike is used on a regular basis, and was coupled to an Optimate for under two months in December and January.


Thanks.
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