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WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 12:20 am
by Jggpossum
My 2023 R1250RT has a mobile phone compartment with WiFi charging capability. I assume this is new with the 2023 model as I haven’t seen much discussion.

Typical BMW. Great idea - woeful implementation.

My iPhone 14 pro only just fits in the compartment with about 3mm to spare so anyone with a pro max or one of those larger Samsung android phones forget about trying.

It doesn’t charge the phone and all I get is intermittent (every 15-30 secs) chimes through my helmet speakers which I’m sure is a message that charging is failing to start correctly. Very annoying and no way to switch off other than removing phone from compartment.

Have tried putting phone in top first and bottom first and makes no difference. Removed cover - makes no difference.

I suspect the problem is the slightly protruding lenses on the rear side of the phone - a feature that is becoming more common these days. My phone charges wirelessly just fine on other stands I have at home but not in the bike compartment.

The compartment also conveniently has a USB connection for cable charging, but of course in usual BMW fashion that doesn’t work either because you need extra clearance to fit the cable in the end of the phone. Only the smallest of phones would fit with a cable inserted in the bottom.

Has anyone had this same issue and found a solution.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 3:58 am
by Tenequip
I have a 2022 RT and it charges my phone in the compartment or in my pocket. I think your problem is settings on the phone or the bike.
Tenequip

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:01 am
by Jggpossum
That’s great. What size is your phone and does it have protruding lenses on the back. Obviously the compartment will work with certain phones and the challenge is to identify those that work and those that don’t. It isn’t a setting issue.

This compartment is not designed for all phones. If BMW were to claim it works with “most” phones that might seem reasonable. I suspect it works with “some” phones and maybe even “some smaller phones”.

You say it charges in your pocket? Now that’s interesting. 🤨

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:06 pm
by jesim1
Yes, its a pain, but I can fit my iPhone 14 pro max in it - just, and you have to have it face up and camera end in first, I think?

Anyway, yes, it does work, but the charging is slow, it basically just charges enough to stop the sat nav flattening your phone :cheers:

Make sure you remove the flap from the charger area, and the case from your phone, I don't use the lock function on the holder, so perhaps yours is pushing it up slightly from the charger?

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:48 pm
by Jggpossum
Thanks good advice. I tried removing the case again and the compartment lifting tab and yes it does charge when inserted top down only. The process of removing the case is too tedious for me plus the fiddly insertion and removal means I am more likely to drop the phone when doing it.

Have ordered mirror adapter for brake/clutch handle bar clamp and it allows mounting ball, clamp and ultimately quadlock wireless charging head at top. These work great and it also means I can detach top ball mount easily and have either phone or GoPro on the mount. Or maybe later even a Garmin. I will also use the phone for navigation as at this point the bike system drops out too often - they haven’t nailed WiFi stability yet.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:17 pm
by SAL
I have a 21 RT just purchased with approximately 600 miles and still under warranty. I have I phone 12 which charges everyday on my Mophie induction charger pad without issue. I have charged it on friends' automobile induction chargers as well.
When I place the phone on the RT induction charger I get green light for approximately 10 seconds before it begins blinking yellow. I have tried to charge with cover on/off, and via placing bottom in first and top in first. It makes no difference, hot or cold.
Has someone gone to dealer with a warranty claim on this and if so what was the outcome.
Thanks.
SAL.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 6:42 am
by Jggpossum
I think this is a limitation of the charging bay rather than a fault. I had virtually no success with my iPhone 14 pro until I did all of the following.

1 removed the case
2 removed the rubber and nylon lifting strap at the top of the compartment.
3 inserted the phone topdown on the left side of the compartment.

I then got a green light that stayed on.

Prior to that I only ever got green light for 10 seconds then flashing amber. This error also seems to generate an error sound “dunk” through my connected headset and it repeats every 30 sec.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 4:35 pm
by jesim1
Jggpossum wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:42 am I think this is a limitation of the charging bay rather than a fault. I had virtually no success with my iPhone 14 pro until I did all of the following.

1 removed the case
2 removed the rubber and nylon lifting strap at the top of the compartment.
3 inserted the phone topdown on the left side of the compartment.

I then got a green light that stayed on.

Prior to that I only ever got green light for 10 seconds then flashing amber. This error also seems to generate an error sound “dunk” through my connected headset and it repeats every 30 sec.
^^^ Me too :cheers:

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 11:05 pm
by Randyjaco
Is there such an animal as WiFi charging? I presume you are talking about wireless charging.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:51 pm
by Lordwanswell
Yes, I have a new 1250RT LE and the small phone compartment is very annoying. I use my old Samsung A5 without a simcard now for navigation. I bought a wireless charging adapter for it and it charges enough to keep I topped up (with no case). I could put a payg sim in if I want to use for phone calls.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:17 pm
by Michaeltaylor65
I’ll try the “removal of the strap” and try and wedge my iPhone 14,into it but so far it won’t charge, you would think with the range of phones out there they might have given some thought to be able to modify it inside to fit different phones.

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:10 am
by dmreeves
Tenequip wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:58 am I have a 2022 RT and it charges my phone in the compartment or in my pocket. I think your problem is settings on the phone or the bike.
Tenequip
Advise on the pocket charging. I have a 2023 RT. Terrible execution from a company that can not supply an accurate speedometer but specs tire pressures to the tenth……..

Re: WiFi Phone Charging

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:37 pm
by Doctor T
my speedo is accurate.