Michelin Road 5GTs

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Michelin Road 5GTs

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Road 5 GTs have been released, not sure how long it will be for stock to build up though. Wonder it there will be discounts on the 4GT now :)
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Michelin continue to offer Pilot Road 2, 3 & 4's.
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David. wrote: Michelin continue to offer Pilot Road 2, 3 & 4's.

Guess that is a no then  ;)
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David. wrote: Michelin continue to offer Pilot Road 2, 3 & 4's.

I liked PR3s.  I couldn't find anyone in the area who could get them in sizes suitable for the R1200RT.  If anyone knows of a source for PR3s in 120/70ZR17 and 180/55ZR17, please let me know.
I had to settle for PR4GTs, as recommended by BMW.  :)
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Looks like Michelin have dropped the PR3 rear 180/55 ZR17. The front 120/70 ZR17 is still available.

Found this rear one on ebay, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180-55-17-73 ... .l4275.c10
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Installed a set of Road 5's on my 2015 RT.  4-k miles on them so far.  The feel is more solid/secure in wet conditions than with the Road 4 GT's previously run.  I assume that's due to the more effective water displacement tread design.  I'm not a real aggressive rider, although I do like to "bend around the curves" so I'll see how the wear factor goes.  I got about 8-K miles out of both sets of Road 4 GT's I had previously.
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I just installed Road 5 GT on my 2008 RT , why is it so cold and rainy in may ;( can't wait to try them out , it is a cool looking tread pattern
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I just replaced my Michelin Road 5 GT's after 3,900 miles with [size=2px]Pirelli Angel GT's[/size] . Front tire down to the wear bars at the center and side. Back tire down to the wear bars at the center, but some rubber left on the sides.


Positives - Tires handled well to end of life - best handling tires at end of life when considering a mild flat spot on back tire. Good adhesion all all road surfaces during cold and wet conditions. Never slipped and were quick to warm up. Quick turn in and stable at high speeds.


Negatives - short life. The original Metzeler Z8's lasted 4,100 miles, but were not down to the wear bars on the front or back. Worse trait - the GT's were also very twitchy with tar stakes, road stripes, small rocks, road cracks (total opposite of the OE Z8's which were much more stable). More pucker moments than [size=2px]any tire I have ridden [/size][size=2px](especially when leaned over). As a result I never felt confident with these tires like I had with the Metzeler[/size][size=2px] Z8's or Pirelli Angel GT's.  [/size][size=2px]For this reason I will never own another set. [/size][size=78%]      [/size]
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A  few contradictions in the positives and negatives???  Personally quite like the PR4's front and back, but I am at an age when I don't ride that aggressively anymore.
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jordanv wrote: I just replaced my Michelin Road 5 GT's after 3,900 miles with Pirelli Angel GT's[/size] . Front tire down to the wear bars at the center and side. Back tire down to the wear bars at the center, but some rubber left on the sides.


Positives - Tires handled well to end of life - best handling tires at end of life when considering a mild flat spot on back tire. Good adhesion all all road surfaces during cold and wet conditions. Never slipped and were quick to warm up. Quick turn in and stable at high speeds.


Negatives - short life. The original Metzeler Z8's lasted 4,100 miles, but were not down to the wear bars on the front or back. Worse trait - the GT's were also very twitchy with tar stakes, road stripes, small rocks, road cracks (total opposite of the OE Z8's which were much more stable). More pucker moments than any tire I have ridden [/size](especially when leaned over). As a result I never felt confident with these tires like I had with the Metzeler[/size] Z8's or Pirelli Angel GT's.  [/size]For this reason I will never own another set. [/font][size=78%]      [/size]

If you were happy with the Z8s, did you not consider the Metzer 01s? I always had PR4GTs on my 1200s and was happy. I have Z8s on my 1250 and have found them very good, so may stay with Metzlers.
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I was one of the first in the country to get a set of 5GT's. Before that I had the 4's from new.
The difference between the 4's and 5's Is huge. The 5's are so much better
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Z8's & PR4GT's are still recommended by BMW Motorrad,
https://www.bmw-motorrad.com/content/da ... 913863.pdf
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I am sure one could spend many happy hours reading through the rules and regulations of the German ABE (Allgemeines Betriebserlaubnis) regarding certification of everything from tyres to handlebar risers to pannier case supports or even exhaust cans. The purpose of the ABE is to ensure that vehicles are safe on the road.


If one was barmy enough to mount Michelin Karoo 3 knobblies in a H-D Electraglide and one was stopped by a German copper, one might well be expected to provide an ABE certificate for mounting those tyres on that vehicle.


No one is going to be fussed if a tyre of a suitable specification is mounted.


The 1200RT is right on the borderline between requiring ordinary and GT tyres (according to a chat with a Michelin tech support guy on last occasion that I needed tyres). If one carries a pillion (which BMW assume one would, having purchased that type of machine),then GT tyres are highly recommended. If one only ever rode solo, one could get away with the ordinary PR5.
For example, a Honda CB1300 weighs the same as a R1200RT LC with panniers and no topbox and Michelin recommend the ordinary PR5 on their website.


In the end it is down to common sense, which I will assume that everyone on this forum possesses.
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I have had two pairs of 4GT’s on my 1200 but ridden the 5GT’s on the Blood Bikes in my opinion the 5’s are a far better tyre and will definitely try them on mine shortly.
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DaveCly wrote: I have had two pairs of 4GT’s on my 1200 but ridden the 5GT’s on the Blood Bikes in my opinion the 5’s are a far better tyre and will definitely try them on mine shortly.

There is a chap who has posted on UKGSER about his 5GTs on his RT. Positives good grip in the dry and wet. Negatives, squirmy on tar lines and white lines and he is down to the wear bars after 3500 miles.
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